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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AtomicPope" data-source="post: 4229540" data-attributes="member: 64790">You're not taking into account that many of the so called "Daily Powers" of a 3e Wizard are less than the equivalent of an At Will 4e power.  Ray of Frost is an At Will power that slows an opponent for one turn with no save.Wizards from 3e don't have any powers to control the fight that are this good.  The save for 1st level spells is obsolete by 7th level unless you've taken feats to boost the DC.  The Magic Missile for a 3e Wizard still isn't as good at 7th level as a 4e Wizard, plus it's not at will.  Heck, it takes a 20th level 3e Wizard's MM to be as good as the MM from a 7th level 4e Wizard.  It's because 3e Wizards don't add Int or Implement bonus to their spells.The fact is, spells scale with every character level.  There's no more caster level/spell level to muck up the numbers.  The "DC" of spells in 4e improves rapidly to prevent obsolescence from occurring.  At 1st level "Daily" from 3e that allowed a save was garbage at higher levels.  This cannot be ignored as it points to a fundamental flaw in the system.</blockquote>