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Are things like Intimidate/Bluff/Diplomacy too easy?
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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5594411" data-attributes="member: 9037"><p>Well first you have to buy the argument that spellcasters are the greatest and everyone else is just a henchmen. Which I don't and funny enough I have never encounter this idea any place but on boards. One of my son's gaming buddies is a powergamer to the max. He is the one I go to for advice on how to build something or ask his opinion on if something is to powerful. And he doesn't buy this old argument.</p><p></p><p>Plenty of my gaming buddies choose to play non spellcasters have have a blast and never feel that they don't have narrative control or that they are anyone's henchmen.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But I have found that there is really no point in beating this dead horse. I am not going to change your mind and you are not going to change mind.</p><p></p><p>Yes you have murdered my wife but you seem nice so I will try and make an ally out of you.<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /> Why because you have such a golden tongue.</p><p></p><p>Damn skippy because I said so I am the DM and I have no problem accepting that has a player but then I only play with DMs I trust so I don't feel as if I am being screwed.</p><p></p><p>Sorry no I don't care if you can crush a dragon like a bug. You are crushing the dragon because of your fighting skill, your weapons training and most likely with the aide of a magical weapon. None of that means your thighs are strong enough to give you the power to jump the Grand Canyon without magical aid. Just like I don't care what your saving throw is if you fall into lava you die pretty much instantly even if you have resistance to fire.</p><p></p><p>Grudging tolerance is still not friendly or helpful in a lot of players eyes. Which is my point that there are times no matter how well you roll a social skill it may not give you all the benefits you would have hoped for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 5594411, member: 9037"] Well first you have to buy the argument that spellcasters are the greatest and everyone else is just a henchmen. Which I don't and funny enough I have never encounter this idea any place but on boards. One of my son's gaming buddies is a powergamer to the max. He is the one I go to for advice on how to build something or ask his opinion on if something is to powerful. And he doesn't buy this old argument. Plenty of my gaming buddies choose to play non spellcasters have have a blast and never feel that they don't have narrative control or that they are anyone's henchmen. But I have found that there is really no point in beating this dead horse. I am not going to change your mind and you are not going to change mind. Yes you have murdered my wife but you seem nice so I will try and make an ally out of you.:hmm: Why because you have such a golden tongue. Damn skippy because I said so I am the DM and I have no problem accepting that has a player but then I only play with DMs I trust so I don't feel as if I am being screwed. Sorry no I don't care if you can crush a dragon like a bug. You are crushing the dragon because of your fighting skill, your weapons training and most likely with the aide of a magical weapon. None of that means your thighs are strong enough to give you the power to jump the Grand Canyon without magical aid. Just like I don't care what your saving throw is if you fall into lava you die pretty much instantly even if you have resistance to fire. Grudging tolerance is still not friendly or helpful in a lot of players eyes. Which is my point that there are times no matter how well you roll a social skill it may not give you all the benefits you would have hoped for. [/QUOTE]
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