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Are things like Intimidate/Bluff/Diplomacy too easy?
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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 5604434" data-attributes="member: 6668292"><p>Since we're (my group) not really afraid of railroads in games, I guess we're not constantly on the lookout to defend ourselves against them. There's nothing but trust with my group, really.</p><p></p><p>This is obviously a play style difference. This seems to happen quite often during these disagreements. I think acknowledging that some people play differently would greatly help both sides. Saying "I don't think things should be done things should be done that way" is quite a bit more inflammatory than "I prefer it when things aren't done that way." (Not accusing you, Hussar, this is aimed at both sides).</p><p></p><p>So, Hussar, when you pose the question in the thread:</p><p></p><p></p><p>... then I'll give you an answer as to why that is, when I play:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, sometimes people don't say "in my group" and that's fine. I think it's implied, as most people in this thread probably wouldn't say "no, you should change the style you enjoy to something I feel is better." However, even with the implication of "in my group" with most statements on both sides, I think both sides have a tendency to get more worked up when they don't see it. It might feel like someone is trying to invalidate your view, rather than give a new perspective.</p><p></p><p>Anyways, we've had a similar discussion before (narrative / simulation discussion), and I quite enjoyed it. I do, however, think that the tone of that discussion seemed much less defensive. I liked it quite a bit.</p><p></p><p>Just throwing out some observations. Take or leave what you will. As always, play what you like <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 5604434, member: 6668292"] Since we're (my group) not really afraid of railroads in games, I guess we're not constantly on the lookout to defend ourselves against them. There's nothing but trust with my group, really. This is obviously a play style difference. This seems to happen quite often during these disagreements. I think acknowledging that some people play differently would greatly help both sides. Saying "I don't think things should be done things should be done that way" is quite a bit more inflammatory than "I prefer it when things aren't done that way." (Not accusing you, Hussar, this is aimed at both sides). So, Hussar, when you pose the question in the thread: ... then I'll give you an answer as to why that is, when I play: Now, sometimes people don't say "in my group" and that's fine. I think it's implied, as most people in this thread probably wouldn't say "no, you should change the style you enjoy to something I feel is better." However, even with the implication of "in my group" with most statements on both sides, I think both sides have a tendency to get more worked up when they don't see it. It might feel like someone is trying to invalidate your view, rather than give a new perspective. Anyways, we've had a similar discussion before (narrative / simulation discussion), and I quite enjoyed it. I do, however, think that the tone of that discussion seemed much less defensive. I liked it quite a bit. Just throwing out some observations. Take or leave what you will. As always, play what you like :) [/QUOTE]
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