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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5611498" data-attributes="member: 22779">And yet, every interpretation here has the PC's failing to enter, despite succeeding on their skill checks.JamesonCourage, that wall of text is beyond my time right now, but, I'll get back to it.  On the quick skim through, I think that where the problem lies is that you have broken down "get into the gate" into multiple parts, each of which must be overcome before you gain entrance.I have no problem with that.  So long as, if they overcome those parts, and those parts are actually possible to overcome, they get through the gate.  Turning the "Get into the Gate" bit into a de facto skill challenge (even if you don't bother with the rigid 4e structure) is perfectly fine.My problem is, as you've presented it, no matter what the PC's do, they fail.  Successfully bluff the guard and the king is called = fail.  Fail to bluff the guard = do not enter = fail.</blockquote>