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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 9361528" data-attributes="member: 6879661">I wanted to spend a bit of time as a player in WFRP because I talk a good game about it but have never actually seen it from a players perspective - which I think is bad for any DM. I'm the only one who really wants to DM the game out of all my groups, because it requires some VTT set up for online play and the others just aren't into that. So I checked out available games on the discord. Saw one, said I was interested. Did session zero a fortnight ago and just finished our first full session tonight.There were 8 players, combat was slow, lots of people didn't know the rules, there were some rookie errors. There were some uncomfortable silences at first. But an hour in, folks were cracking jokes, laughing at silly situations. Talking with people all over the world and basically having a ball.I had set my expectations low because it was pot luck but It was a really fun session. Lucky I think because of a good DM who put some life and entertainment into it, but it could have gone the other way. He didnt follow the rules too closely, improvised a lot and generally was very enabling to the players. So now I know I can just turn up, roll some dice, laugh with some folks and do some heroing once a week with a game I enjoy.More than anyone else I've ever heard from, you need to spend some time as a player. It feels like you just take the game too seriously - certainly more than your players do. None of the things you said below require taking the game really seriously to achieve. Let someone else do the work for a change.At the moment I think you have a choice between Face to Face that you know is hard work. Or VTT with strangers that might be fun even if not quite the same. I think you probably need to accept that there is no system that is going to fix your gaming group and expectation problems. I guess my point is good games are out there if you want them. Don’t put all the responsibility for it on yourself.</blockquote>

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