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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 5053069" data-attributes="member: 1139"><p>I'm not sure why this is a problem in practice. Form of the Winter's Herald and Form of Mountain's Thunder both seem better than any Warden level 5 daily. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This Warden's accuracy is only average (+10 to hit) for a 6th level character. Characters with higher attack bonuses will get more out of damage boosts. For reference, this character's DPR when in Guardian Form is +10 to hit AC 20, for 2d6 (r1) + 18 on a hit, which comes out to 14.7 DPR. Outside of the Guardian Form he does 2d6 (r1) +12 on a hit, for DPR of 11.4. Very solid, but it's not going to exceed a well-built striker!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If so, he's been lucky. Unless you're very well invested in initiative boosts (which, at a low level, is hard to do), beating all other combatants in initiative is rare.</p><p></p><p>The point remains: it's not that Wardens are generally too strong. The player in question has hit on a very strong build. It's not the only one out there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elric, post: 5053069, member: 1139"] I'm not sure why this is a problem in practice. Form of the Winter's Herald and Form of Mountain's Thunder both seem better than any Warden level 5 daily. This Warden's accuracy is only average (+10 to hit) for a 6th level character. Characters with higher attack bonuses will get more out of damage boosts. For reference, this character's DPR when in Guardian Form is +10 to hit AC 20, for 2d6 (r1) + 18 on a hit, which comes out to 14.7 DPR. Outside of the Guardian Form he does 2d6 (r1) +12 on a hit, for DPR of 11.4. Very solid, but it's not going to exceed a well-built striker! If so, he's been lucky. Unless you're very well invested in initiative boosts (which, at a low level, is hard to do), beating all other combatants in initiative is rare. The point remains: it's not that Wardens are generally too strong. The player in question has hit on a very strong build. It's not the only one out there. [/QUOTE]
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