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Are warriors & rogues required at high level?
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<blockquote data-quote="Grishnak" data-source="post: 1110245" data-attributes="member: 11932"><p>After playing my previous 5 weekly sessions as the main warrior of the group (Ranger 7/Shadowdancer 9, 2 weopon fighting style) And roughly 10 weeks with my previous (Barbarian/ Frenzied Berserker) I've pretty much just sat around doing nothing whilst the mage and cleric do all the work. My whole contribution has been roughly 50 points of damage or so spread out over about 10-15 creatures or so with my latest character. I've discussed and argued this with my friends who have admitadly played longer than myself but they are still arguing from previous editions that groups require the 4 main classes but I say a wizard/cleric can cover the aspects of the other classes, they can summon allies to fight while they cast and the access of spells covers almost everything else.</p><p>Now I'm the sort of player that needs to feel useful to the group but at this moment in time playing the last 2 warriors gaining levels whilst doing pretty much nothing is not my idea of useful or fun!! The previous warrior I had more enjoyment attacking the party in a frenzy due to the little I had to do. It's got to the point now where there's been combats and obvious exits away from the fight and me stating my character would be heading through the portals with others in the group saying you cant leave the fight and whats through the other side etc for my character to just to run around trying to fight and do a few points of damage if he does hit the extremely high ac's we seem to be facing where only the 1st attacks (+19 Longsword / +19 Shortsword) has a chance of hitting with a 15+ rolled!</p><p></p><p>Has anyone else encountered this in their games and what did you do to get around it? I've been considering leaving the group for some time to have a break as I've got totally down with my hobby which is costing me money driving to & from the venue for me to do nothing. I'm waiting to see how the game session goes with another DM taking over for a couple of months at level 1 and continuing on a 2 weekly basis with the original dm taking the other 2 weeks.</p><p></p><p>This isn't a rant at my dm or anything like that as I wouldn't have played for over 8 years so please dont take it like that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grishnak, post: 1110245, member: 11932"] After playing my previous 5 weekly sessions as the main warrior of the group (Ranger 7/Shadowdancer 9, 2 weopon fighting style) And roughly 10 weeks with my previous (Barbarian/ Frenzied Berserker) I've pretty much just sat around doing nothing whilst the mage and cleric do all the work. My whole contribution has been roughly 50 points of damage or so spread out over about 10-15 creatures or so with my latest character. I've discussed and argued this with my friends who have admitadly played longer than myself but they are still arguing from previous editions that groups require the 4 main classes but I say a wizard/cleric can cover the aspects of the other classes, they can summon allies to fight while they cast and the access of spells covers almost everything else. Now I'm the sort of player that needs to feel useful to the group but at this moment in time playing the last 2 warriors gaining levels whilst doing pretty much nothing is not my idea of useful or fun!! The previous warrior I had more enjoyment attacking the party in a frenzy due to the little I had to do. It's got to the point now where there's been combats and obvious exits away from the fight and me stating my character would be heading through the portals with others in the group saying you cant leave the fight and whats through the other side etc for my character to just to run around trying to fight and do a few points of damage if he does hit the extremely high ac's we seem to be facing where only the 1st attacks (+19 Longsword / +19 Shortsword) has a chance of hitting with a 15+ rolled! Has anyone else encountered this in their games and what did you do to get around it? I've been considering leaving the group for some time to have a break as I've got totally down with my hobby which is costing me money driving to & from the venue for me to do nothing. I'm waiting to see how the game session goes with another DM taking over for a couple of months at level 1 and continuing on a 2 weekly basis with the original dm taking the other 2 weeks. This isn't a rant at my dm or anything like that as I wouldn't have played for over 8 years so please dont take it like that. [/QUOTE]
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