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Are warriors & rogues required at high level?
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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 1122746" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hi Thanee! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thats rather a sweeping conjecture! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think this could certainly be a popular misconception:</p><p></p><p>Druids are at best, peripheral classes. They are not as widely played as Sorcerors/Wizards or even Clerics. The effect of this is twofold; firstly less people are made aware of their power; secondly there are less attempts to exploit it so many of the classes nuances are not as well reported, or as obvious, as say the Wizard for instance.</p><p></p><p>Most of the people I have spoken too that play Druids have commented that they are one of the stronger classes. You yourself said they were a strong class.</p><p></p><p>As to whether they are more powerful than the Cleric thats something I will have to review in light of my spontaneous spellcasting oversight. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I try to avoid simply 'making up numbers'. All my conclusions were derived from a logical basis. </p><p></p><p>I am only rating the facts as they stand in the rulebooks. If after that a certain campaign sees Monks as notably weaker than my figures, then thats okay, because almost certainly other campaigns will see them as stronger than my figures. What I am looking for is the median line; the typical average for all campaigns.</p><p></p><p>Clearly these figures are meant to be seen as guidelines; and only sweeping gulfs should be noted as potentially problematic or imbalancing.</p><p></p><p>Of course its up to people to decide exactly where the gulf is:</p><p></p><p>Is it the +10% the Wizard has over the Fighter Class?</p><p>Is it the near +20% the Cleric has over the Fighter Class?</p><p>Is it the greater than +30% the Mystic Theurge has over the Fighter Class?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks for the feedback.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 1122746, member: 326"] Hi Thanee! :) Thats rather a sweeping conjecture! :D I think this could certainly be a popular misconception: Druids are at best, peripheral classes. They are not as widely played as Sorcerors/Wizards or even Clerics. The effect of this is twofold; firstly less people are made aware of their power; secondly there are less attempts to exploit it so many of the classes nuances are not as well reported, or as obvious, as say the Wizard for instance. Most of the people I have spoken too that play Druids have commented that they are one of the stronger classes. You yourself said they were a strong class. As to whether they are more powerful than the Cleric thats something I will have to review in light of my spontaneous spellcasting oversight. :o I try to avoid simply 'making up numbers'. All my conclusions were derived from a logical basis. I am only rating the facts as they stand in the rulebooks. If after that a certain campaign sees Monks as notably weaker than my figures, then thats okay, because almost certainly other campaigns will see them as stronger than my figures. What I am looking for is the median line; the typical average for all campaigns. Clearly these figures are meant to be seen as guidelines; and only sweeping gulfs should be noted as potentially problematic or imbalancing. Of course its up to people to decide exactly where the gulf is: Is it the +10% the Wizard has over the Fighter Class? Is it the near +20% the Cleric has over the Fighter Class? Is it the greater than +30% the Mystic Theurge has over the Fighter Class? Thanks for the feedback. [/QUOTE]
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