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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6253065" data-attributes="member: 87792">Whether elephants are big depends on what you are comparing them  to.  The normal implicit comparison is to humans, on which scale they  are big.  But if you were to try discussing elephants in the context of  megafauna such as the diplodocus, no.  No they aren't.You've  asked if we as a community are nasty - a question that is meaningless  without a baseline for scale.  I see three possible baselines.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">An  idealised community that's never nasty.  By this standard all real  human communities are nasty so the question is meaningless.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">A narrower gaming community - for instance yours.  Now I don't know your local gaming community so can't use this on this board.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Other comparable  online communities.  To me this is the baseline for nice or nasty that  makes the most sense.  And by those standards we are probably near the  bottom of the nicest echelon where the nicest echelon is:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hobbyist, in it for the love rather than money</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Team rather than individual meaning that other people enrich our experiences</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cooperative hobby rather than competitive - we don't want to "Smash their bastard, make him want to change his name"</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Creating rather than consuming, with the ability to tell canon/the ref to stuff it in the event of a retcon or rules change or just a decision we don't like</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Skills that we need to develop and where everyone started out at rock bottom<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Effectively inexhaustible amounts of creation possible</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">No major commercial competition</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">No major teams to support</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">No major real world impact to get upset about.  It isn't a matter of livelihoods or social change.</li> </ul></li> </ul>We're  only just in the nicest echelon on most counts - we flirt with  competition and consumerism, and didn't start from rock bottom.  I'd  expect the horticulturalists to be nicer than we are.  But compared to  just about any fandom, never mind any social change movement then yes we  are nice.</blockquote>

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