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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 6254195" data-attributes="member: 9213"><p>*Looks up thread*</p><p></p><p>Sooooo, I'm guessing the answer to the question at hand is yes? </p><p></p><p>Personally, I think that the gaming community at large tends to make too many excuses for itself and it's sometime sociopathic behavior. Especially how it acts on message board forum. </p><p></p><p>I was part of a two or three different message board communities on Delphi, including the Warren Ellis forum. People there were well behaved and decent almost to a fault and were capable of disagreeing and discussing without getting vile and personal. There were a few people who came in occasionally and stir up the pot but they were quickly dealt with. </p><p></p><p>Gamers as a whole treat each other with derision and tend to be inclined to crap all over things they dont like as opposed to talk up things that they do. Criticism is useful when we're seeking to possibly do something better or to think about how a "problem" can be resolved. But the "Criticism" that goes on boards like these alot of the time is a usually a bunch of nerds engaging in the equivalent of a d**k measuring contest. Theyre not seeking to make the community a better place. Theyre not seeking to come up with solutions. Theyre seeking to beat up on people who in their eyes "have made mistakes" and a lot of time insinuate that those people (most often designers) should be fixed along with their mistakes. </p><p></p><p>I love my hobbies and I can say the same thing about Comic book and Anime fans. I LOVE mu hobbies but I HATE the fandom for the most part. </p><p></p><p>The only reason that I tolerated the signal to noise ratio here was because at one time there was a lot of good news and insight that came from the people here. If it weren't for this place I wouldn't have learned about a lot of the great 3rd party publishers who published for d20. </p><p></p><p>After 4E I've had less and less use for ENWorld and it's members. I almost come here out of force of habit now. Every now and then I'll discover something here and it'll be worth it. So I keep coming back. I dont go back to RPG.net because compared to here it's not a pleasant place AT ALL.</p><p></p><p>I think if people treated each other with the basic respect that they would probably treat people in person with then Message Board communities would be a better place and thus less nasty. But I think that a tone has been set here (especially during the Edition Wars of 2007-10) that's not going to be possible. It's calmer here than it's been in a long time, I can say that much but then again I dont expect it to be as crazy here as it was back then. </p><p></p><p>And let me be perfectly clear, I've been drawn into less than respectable confrontations with other posters as well so I'm not saying this from any sort of enlightened position. My hands have been just as dirty as anyone elses. I kinda know my own triggers and try to avoid them. (THANK YOU IGNORE FEATURE!) I say TRY because I'm not perfect. Still even after saying all of that I dont want to give the impression that I hate this place. I dont. But my experiences with gamers on message boards lean toward them being a particularly nasty, bullying bunch with decent well intentioned people who dont let internet ego get to them being few and far between.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 6254195, member: 9213"] *Looks up thread* Sooooo, I'm guessing the answer to the question at hand is yes? Personally, I think that the gaming community at large tends to make too many excuses for itself and it's sometime sociopathic behavior. Especially how it acts on message board forum. I was part of a two or three different message board communities on Delphi, including the Warren Ellis forum. People there were well behaved and decent almost to a fault and were capable of disagreeing and discussing without getting vile and personal. There were a few people who came in occasionally and stir up the pot but they were quickly dealt with. Gamers as a whole treat each other with derision and tend to be inclined to crap all over things they dont like as opposed to talk up things that they do. Criticism is useful when we're seeking to possibly do something better or to think about how a "problem" can be resolved. But the "Criticism" that goes on boards like these alot of the time is a usually a bunch of nerds engaging in the equivalent of a d**k measuring contest. Theyre not seeking to make the community a better place. Theyre not seeking to come up with solutions. Theyre seeking to beat up on people who in their eyes "have made mistakes" and a lot of time insinuate that those people (most often designers) should be fixed along with their mistakes. I love my hobbies and I can say the same thing about Comic book and Anime fans. I LOVE mu hobbies but I HATE the fandom for the most part. The only reason that I tolerated the signal to noise ratio here was because at one time there was a lot of good news and insight that came from the people here. If it weren't for this place I wouldn't have learned about a lot of the great 3rd party publishers who published for d20. After 4E I've had less and less use for ENWorld and it's members. I almost come here out of force of habit now. Every now and then I'll discover something here and it'll be worth it. So I keep coming back. I dont go back to RPG.net because compared to here it's not a pleasant place AT ALL. I think if people treated each other with the basic respect that they would probably treat people in person with then Message Board communities would be a better place and thus less nasty. But I think that a tone has been set here (especially during the Edition Wars of 2007-10) that's not going to be possible. It's calmer here than it's been in a long time, I can say that much but then again I dont expect it to be as crazy here as it was back then. And let me be perfectly clear, I've been drawn into less than respectable confrontations with other posters as well so I'm not saying this from any sort of enlightened position. My hands have been just as dirty as anyone elses. I kinda know my own triggers and try to avoid them. (THANK YOU IGNORE FEATURE!) I say TRY because I'm not perfect. Still even after saying all of that I dont want to give the impression that I hate this place. I dont. But my experiences with gamers on message boards lean toward them being a particularly nasty, bullying bunch with decent well intentioned people who dont let internet ego get to them being few and far between. [/QUOTE]
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