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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrozenNorth" data-source="post: 8755187" data-attributes="member: 7020832">Actually, the wizard is awesome at the social pillar.  The error is thinking the social pillar is spamming Cha(Pers) and Cha(Decep) checks.Lots of Int(His), Int(Rel) and Int(Arcana) to understand what people are talking about and ask the right questions.  Lots of Int(investigation and Wis(Insight) checks to read people.  Wizards are great of these, since a lot of them are Int based and many wizards also have good Wis.Of course, let’s not ignore the other part of the social pillar: actually being able to communicate. The 18 Cha Rogue isn’t going to face very effectively if he doesn’t speak Giant.  Tongues and Comprehend languages definitely give wizards a boost here.Can other spells give wizards a boost in the social pillar?  Prestidigitation is a good way to impress commoners.  Detect thoughts is pretty good also, and doesn’t require a saving throw for surface thoughts.Sure, the Rogue can have high Cha and expertise, but how often is information in the social pillar gated behind a DC 18 Cha roll? It seems to me that something like DC 13 or 14 is a lot more common, which is readily available with proficiency.The most useful social-based spell is Enhance Ability, and it does mot have the mind control stigma.  In a high level game, it is my choice for the “unlimited cast” wizard spell.</blockquote>