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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8756948" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>They are lower level, but they do get nearly as many spells a day using Tasha's options. A 14th level caster casts 17 spells a day, a 14th level Ranger using Primal Awaeness gets 15-16 depending on subclass. The better subclasses also have awesome subclass abilities and Ranger abilities on top of that.</p><p></p><p>I agree they are not notably good compared to full casters, but they are more powerful than Rogues, Figthers, Paladins, Barbarians and Monks. Part of the reason is they are good at everything across the board. They are good casters, not as good as Wizards or Clerics but the better Rangers can come close to the lessor Bards. They are really good at the other two pillars, second only to Rogues and Bards and they do this while sporting martial weapons and d10 hit dice.</p><p></p><p>I don't agree that other classes need to be improved similarly. Monk maybe, but not the others. I like the way they improved the Ranger, but I like the other classes how they are too. I think making the Ranger more magical made a lot of sense thematically, but doing the same to a fighter, Rogue or Barbarian would not make a lot of sense and would be more difficult from a thematic point of view IMO. A more magical Monk would be ok, Paladins are already heavily magical and are not that far behind I don't think.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8756948, member: 7030563"] They are lower level, but they do get nearly as many spells a day using Tasha's options. A 14th level caster casts 17 spells a day, a 14th level Ranger using Primal Awaeness gets 15-16 depending on subclass. The better subclasses also have awesome subclass abilities and Ranger abilities on top of that. I agree they are not notably good compared to full casters, but they are more powerful than Rogues, Figthers, Paladins, Barbarians and Monks. Part of the reason is they are good at everything across the board. They are good casters, not as good as Wizards or Clerics but the better Rangers can come close to the lessor Bards. They are really good at the other two pillars, second only to Rogues and Bards and they do this while sporting martial weapons and d10 hit dice. I don't agree that other classes need to be improved similarly. Monk maybe, but not the others. I like the way they improved the Ranger, but I like the other classes how they are too. I think making the Ranger more magical made a lot of sense thematically, but doing the same to a fighter, Rogue or Barbarian would not make a lot of sense and would be more difficult from a thematic point of view IMO. A more magical Monk would be ok, Paladins are already heavily magical and are not that far behind I don't think. [/QUOTE]
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