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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Asisreo" data-source="post: 8757505" data-attributes="member: 7019027">In a way, they do. Simply do enough damage to kill a creature in one-shot. In reference to PWK, it again seems powerful on the surface level but in practicality it's "do 100 damage. If that doesn't kill, undo the damage." And it's attached to magic with all it's drawbacks. Not to mention, the monk has an ability extremely similar to this in their Open Hand tradition. If you use the DMG object rules and assume that the portcullis is the most resilient option (large, resilient), the fighter can tear through it before a round is over. It's explicitly possible to bend portcullis bars in the DMG, so if the DM calls for a strength check, the fighter can "take20" and get as high as a DC 28. Not only without magic assistance, but with a straight strength check with no skills/tools. Or, if they simply want to lift it, then as long as the weight of the portcullis is less than 600lbs, the fighter can lift it easily with no ability check. If they can't, the DM can call for a strength check where they, again, get a huge possible score. Any character can do this with the Pirate background. And while you may think it relies on DM fiat, there really isn't a way to give a feature like that to a character without it being frustrating for the DM. I mean, even spells can't force an entire regiment to back down at a time. You can frighten or charm them or try to Mass Suggestion them, but there's still limits like saving throws and a finite number of creatures that can be magically suggested. A GOOlock would need very specific circumstances to attempt to imitate that.</blockquote>

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