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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 8758698" data-attributes="member: 53980"><p>So if I invade the fortress of the BBEG and it is full of trolls, we'll fight trolls all the way up to his throne room but when we face him it'll be him and a bunch of not-trolls?</p><p></p><p>You've lost me. Why am I being counterspelled in round 2? Do you add mages to every encounter just for the purpose of counterspelling your casters? If that's the case, no wonder you don't think casters aren't that good. It's because you're <em>literally</em> designing your encounters to counter them.</p><p></p><p>I don't even bother taking fireball with all of my casters.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It depends on whether I deem this a potential TPK or not, but based on what you've said I'm going to assume that this encounter is sufficiently challenging to drain some resources, but unlikely to kill any PCs.</p><p></p><p>I'd probably move back and put Tasha's Hideous Laughter on the one they didn't engage.</p><p></p><p>Although, in my group, the fighter and barbarian would more likely engage each of the giants to protect the back line. I do the same when I play a martial. In which case, assuming I'm trying to conserve resources for the day, I'd probably just use something like the Frostbite cantrip (I'd be fully aware that I have a low chance of landing it, but if I do it might save the martial a few HP) while I assess the battlefield and make sure there are no more serious threats. On round two, depending on how things are going, I might drop a real spell like Banishment or Hold Monster, so that the martials can focus on a single giant.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 8758698, member: 53980"] So if I invade the fortress of the BBEG and it is full of trolls, we'll fight trolls all the way up to his throne room but when we face him it'll be him and a bunch of not-trolls? You've lost me. Why am I being counterspelled in round 2? Do you add mages to every encounter just for the purpose of counterspelling your casters? If that's the case, no wonder you don't think casters aren't that good. It's because you're [I]literally[/I] designing your encounters to counter them. I don't even bother taking fireball with all of my casters. It depends on whether I deem this a potential TPK or not, but based on what you've said I'm going to assume that this encounter is sufficiently challenging to drain some resources, but unlikely to kill any PCs. I'd probably move back and put Tasha's Hideous Laughter on the one they didn't engage. Although, in my group, the fighter and barbarian would more likely engage each of the giants to protect the back line. I do the same when I play a martial. In which case, assuming I'm trying to conserve resources for the day, I'd probably just use something like the Frostbite cantrip (I'd be fully aware that I have a low chance of landing it, but if I do it might save the martial a few HP) while I assess the battlefield and make sure there are no more serious threats. On round two, depending on how things are going, I might drop a real spell like Banishment or Hold Monster, so that the martials can focus on a single giant. [/QUOTE]
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