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<blockquote data-quote="Rothe" data-source="post: 2892959" data-attributes="member: 39813">By the definition of wargames first then to OD&amp;D, I guess I'm a grognard.&nbsp; I emphasise wargames first because I think it formed a certain view of games different than introduction to games first via RPG then to wargames.&nbsp; I know that sounds really closed-minded (so extra grognard points?) but by going from wargames to RPGs some thought you left the fold back in the day.&nbsp;Played way too many games of Blitzkrieg and Squad Leader and could probably play the latter today without looking at the rules.&nbsp; Call me comrade as I always played the Russians, oh I despise Steiner!&nbsp; Can anyone say -2 for open ground?Squad Leader was my fisrt RPG in that we played through all the scenarios and decided to let leaders that survived get a little better.&nbsp; We were perfectly primed for D&amp;D when it came to our attention.To this day I still tend to shy away from calling myself a &quot;grognard&quot; as to me it still has the perjorative meaning of the late 70s.&nbsp; I also cringe today when it is used as some form of chest beating instead of just a description of how you got into RPGs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Rothe, post: 2892959, member: 39813"] By the definition of [b]wargames first[/b] then to OD&D, I guess I'm a grognard. I emphasise wargames first because I think it formed a certain view of games different than introduction to games first via RPG then to wargames. I know that sounds really closed-minded (so extra grognard points?) but by going from wargames to RPGs some thought you left the fold back in the day. Played way too many games of [i]Blitzkrieg[/i] and [i]Squad Leader[/i] and could probably play the latter today without looking at the rules. Call me comrade as I always played the Russians, oh I despise Steiner! Can anyone say -2 for open ground? [i]Squad Leader[/i] was my fisrt RPG in that we played through all the scenarios and decided to let leaders that survived get a little better. We were perfectly primed for D&D when it came to our attention. To this day I still tend to shy away from calling myself a "grognard" as to me it still has the perjorative meaning of the late 70s. I also cringe today when it is used as some form of chest beating instead of just a description of how you got into RPGs. [/QUOTE]

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