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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 481840" data-attributes="member: 259">Interesting.  Maybe it's that we threaten the party in different ways. Threats my PCs have faced, over their careers:-Getting collared by the cops for sneaking around a murder site.-Getting mugged in a back alley.-Getting sniped at by poisoned crossbow bolts-Letting a murderer escape.-Letting ghouls carry a PC off for lunch-Being blackmailed by the largest church in town-Almost eating human flesh at a down-and-out caravanserai-Fighting undead legions on the deck of a storm-tossed ship-Rowing furiously away from a cultist's den, all while cultists fire crossbows at them from the shore.-Having a vengeance-minded osyluth trick them into thinking they had committed several murders-Having a mafia-don-type figure frame them for murder, fraud, and theft-Choosing to walk naked and unarmed into the holy land of a hostile goddess-Chased by undead spellcasters and archers riding a trained rocWe've got plenty of excitement, and the PCs regularly run away from overwhelming odds.  They don't play in the "we're immortal" style that you suggest:  they show fear, they recognize when they're outgunned.But they also show courage, and they also take risks.It's a different style of play.  I think you're simply mistaken about how players respond to knowing the PCs won't die.Daniel</blockquote>