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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Glyfair" data-source="post: 2764111" data-attributes="member: 53">Ironically, it seems gamers want to spend more money (assuming they'll get some more value).  For example, hardbound books have become more and more common because they sell better.  The value increase is small, but it seems more gamers want to spend more for that upgrade then those that want to save money but not having the upgrades.I think this is somewhat ironic.  IIRC, Green Ronin was one of the companies that was critical of WotC for hurting the d20 industry by putting out 3.5.  If it wasn't them (my memory is a bit fuzzy on the exact situation), they were used as an example of companies moving towards creating their own OGL properties because they wouldn't have to worry about WotC pulling the rug out from under the sales of their older products.There are 3rd parties who have used Green Ronins version of the d20 license and, presumbably, they have experienced the same thing from Green Ronin making the older version obsolete so soon after the originals release (IIRC, the time frame was about the same or slightly shorter).  Not as many companies, of course.  Still, the principle is the same.</blockquote>