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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 4000356" data-attributes="member: 18">The FR spirit is one of the most subjective things I can think of, as the FR is a setting that has gone through many phases, been influenced by many many authors, and been "spun" in several different ways. However well WotC did, if they actually made changes, they would be accused of "failing to keep the FR spirit", because for someone, somewhere (on Candlekeep) the FR spirit was all about sexiness in Silverymoon, and Silverymoon being hit by a comet (I can dream!) has broken the FR completely and oh god he can't play it any more. I mean, clearly for me, the FR had already lost the "FR spirit", had it not? From my entirely subjective perspective, definately, it lost it at the end of 2E and continued that path in 3E, only with megatons (like, more than I'd ever seen) more PC/NPC-oriented crunch.That's lovely talk, but I see nothing in your posts genuinely about "understanding the market as a whole", and a lot based from various specialist forums on the internet. You seem to assuming that, from these specialist forums, you're getting a better picture of the market than WotC did.That seems a little... um, I dunno, dodgy to me.Also, why are you "listening" to "extreme" fans? They're the least useful source of opinion on any kind of financial or "market as a whole" deal. You go on and on about how "in some people's mind it isn't good", but I've not seen a word from you about how in many people's, it is!Apparently, it is, because, a few dozen individuals who have, over twenty-odd years spent "thousands" of dollars (more likely hundreds) is utterly meaningless in the face of a gigantic casual fan-base who spend a few dozen dollars every year. If you can't understand that, well, I'm sorry for you, but it's very simple and straightfoward economics."Extreme" fans are few in number, loud in voice, and incapable of supporting this kind of product line by themselves. How hard is this to understand? Impossible for some, apparently. It really blows my mind.What makes it even funnier, is that these extreme fans are in utter 100% denial that anyone has ever gotten bored with the 2E/3E realms and their tendencies, and stopped spending. I'm pretty sure WotC aren't in denial about this, however.</blockquote>

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