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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Najo" data-source="post: 4004964" data-attributes="member: 9959">My tone has been fine and non-bias. No different than Devyn or Hussar. Hussar even agreed with my points and has backed up the poll. I have stated I have no hurt feelings and I am not personally affected by the Realms. My interests are business based, not emotional. You keep twisting everything I post into something else. I have pointed this out to you. Please stop. Again, more making objective statements into things they are not. I am not fueled by emotions in my posts. I could lay out sources for everything, but then that would take up alot thread space, be boring to most and at times reveal information I prefer to keep private. Your really the only person who seems to be making this discussion personal and attacking me. You keep taking my posts out of context too. Again, I wish you would please stop doing it before moderator shuts the thread down or bans you for a week. You seem like you have things to add to the discussion, but your methods are lacking diplomacy and you are reading negativity into statements that are not there. Plain and simple, I have stated my intentions and tone and you still say you don't believe me. That is your choice, but it is the reason we are having this problem.  Not every single possible poll choice can be represented, but the major choices are reflected. Most of the "missing" choices you referring to in the thread (like 3 of them) can fit into one of the choices on the poll and still give us fairly accurate look at the state of the fan base on ENworld. I repeat STATE OF THE FAN BASE ON ENWORLD!This poll is not claiming to be the end all of the world's surveys, nor is it 100% proof of Forgotten Realms verring into self inflicted ruin. There is alot about the Forgotten Realms 4e setting we have yet to see. WOTC may have many more wonderful things within it, and we won't know until the book is in our hands if the new FR is better than the old one. This has been stated many times in this forum, by myself even. So I don't know where you are getting that I have some personal opinions and that I am some hurt FR fan or something. I already stated I am not a Realms fan, in fact I have never even read a Forgotten Realms novel and I played in a Forgotten Realms campaign for like 3 sessions. The realms is not quite my cup of tea. I was impressed with the scope of the setting though, and I have spoken with many of the fans over the years and understand why they love it. I personally was impressed with the work 3e did on organizing the Realms (props to Sean K Reynolds and crew). I have kept every design article on 3e's Realms creation, from changing the Thay Wizards to redoing the middle of the map. All very fascinating stuff to learn from. As for whether or not a poll is accurate, no poll is a 100%. You have isolate your target market, word the questions right based on what you are measuring, you need to understand the environment you are polling within (i.e. a web forum, city street, workplace). Thing is, I wanted to get a perspective of the general vibe here on ENworld. Enworld reflects the D&D community a bit better than the WOTC forums as the community here is more mature and willing to contribute. Thing is, the percentages of who plays 3.0/3.5/4.0, who likes what campaign settings, who DMs and who plays, who uses the internet etc are roughly the same as on any D&D forum. This is because D&D is such a tight knit community of gamers who run in a niche market together. The results are going to be a fair snap shot of things to pay attention too.In regards to polling D&D forums not representing the full market because not all D&D fans have internet access etc. Well, most of them do and a good percentage of them use the forums of either WOTC or here. I am willing to bet at least 2 out of 5 gamers from a single gaming group regularly browse the forums. I also am willing to bet that half of the DMs out there do as well. That means, the only way to get a more accurate poll is to put survey cards in the books and then collect the data (which is not done immediately). Ironically, that only polls the people who return the cards...   Or.. we could poll the attendants of D&D experience or Gen Con or Origins...but that is skewed too.We could go into game stores and poll all of the people walking through, but again, those online or dead guys aren't accounted for and a game store poll only reflects the people caught in that time. Some customers only come in once or twice a month. So what option does that leave us? Well, by placing a poll online in the middle of traffic that is a fair sampling of most of the gamers, it gives us a picture of what is going on. It is no different than going out into nature and getting samples from an area for a test. As most D&D fans reflect there groups and a decent portion regularly uses the forums, then polls in these places do give helpful insight into the state of the industry. If I still haven't made my point to you, I don't knwo what will. Please be constructive and less judgemental. If you don't like the thread and can't help but be rude to me then don't post in it. If you still feel the need to be rude and share it, then I will let the moderators deal with you. If you can be constructive and add to the discussion then you are welcome to join us. Thank you for your understanding Ruin Explorer. I hope you take this constructively as it was intended. Peace.</blockquote>

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