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<blockquote data-quote="jdavis" data-source="post: 1304885" data-attributes="member: 8704"><p>I bought into Obi Wan having a hard time believing somebody had changed the archive records, they made a big point of showing that this was a absolutly foriegn prospect to them and the librarian actually believed that it was imposible. Obi Wan's question for Yoda wasn't where is the Planet, it was why is it not in the archives.</p><p> </p><p>The best part of the movie is on Kamino, that's the part I really loved the most, it was classic leading questions and playing on the fact that the kaminoians were hearing what they wanted and expected to hear (not to mention he was probably using the force to smooth things out too). Why would they of had him killed for any reason, that would be like you going to a car lot and somebody saying here's your car it's already paid for and you saying but I didn't buy a car and them saying oh well I'll have to kill you then. They had no clue what the army was for or what was going on in the galaxy they were just trying to deliver a prepaid for product to the Jedi order who they believed had ordered it. This is one of the tightest points in either of the two movies, the jedi were manipulated into going there and picking up a army the Kaminians were manipulated into building thinking they were for the Jedi so it would all be ready at the exact time there was a Galactic rebellion. I think you missed the point that the Kaminoians were not bad guys or in on what was going on, they were just being manipulated to insure a army was ready for Palpatine so he could manuver a civil war into happening so he could become a dictator. They were just pawns in all this.</p><p> </p><p>As far as Dooku not killing Obi Wan well of course he didn't he wasn't ready to reveal himself as a Sith Lord yet. Better to let the stupid bug people do it so he could claim he had tried to stop them. Look I hated the bug people and I disliked the arena scene but it did make sense the way it played out. I mean it was all manipulated to put pieces in certain positions at certain times, Dooku wasn't on the other side he was manipulating them into starting the war Palpatine wanted he was on his own side. Dooku wasn't the leader of the bug people he was the person who was inciting the separtist movement, All he had to do to clear himself of any wrongdoing in Amadala's execution was to say "it wasn't my fault, it was the bug people I tried to stop them". Also you have to wonder if the whole big public execution thing was just a elaborate trap to draw the jedi into, I mean it obviously was but maybe it was all planned to be that way. Heck just like the huge battle on Geonosis wasn't meaningless it was the culmination of a carefully laid trap by the Sith Lords over a ten year period. Every single little thing that happened happened by Palpatine's design (remember he can see the future too, that goes back to Empire and Jedi). Everything happened according to his design, he manipulated both sides into a war for the sole purpose of him becoming a dictator and you don't really think the separatist were ever a real threat, it was a war he designed that he knew he could win for the express purpose of eliminating the Jedi order. Heck even the Death Star thing, Dooku manipulated the Geonoshians into designing it and then stole the plans and took them to Palpatine, there was never any way that Palpatine or Dooku would of let the Geonoshians build a Death Star, Palpatine wanted the Republic to win in the end, that's how the empire was formed. Heck Dooku acting all upset about the big attack was just a act, it's what he had been working to see happen, he had planned out everything including his escape route, I mean do you think Palpatine was unaware of the impending attack on Geonosis or the Jedi order leaving to rescue Obi Wan? How hard would it of been for him to call his student and tell him to be ready. Let me reiterate, <em>The whole thing was a big giant set up, every little detail was planned by Palpatine</em> (maybe even what happened to Anikin on Tatooine). He can see the future and his student is running the other side, it's all a big set up that worked to perfection. As much as I fault the movies I did get what was going on and how it tied into what happened in Jedi.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdavis, post: 1304885, member: 8704"] I bought into Obi Wan having a hard time believing somebody had changed the archive records, they made a big point of showing that this was a absolutly foriegn prospect to them and the librarian actually believed that it was imposible. Obi Wan's question for Yoda wasn't where is the Planet, it was why is it not in the archives. The best part of the movie is on Kamino, that's the part I really loved the most, it was classic leading questions and playing on the fact that the kaminoians were hearing what they wanted and expected to hear (not to mention he was probably using the force to smooth things out too). Why would they of had him killed for any reason, that would be like you going to a car lot and somebody saying here's your car it's already paid for and you saying but I didn't buy a car and them saying oh well I'll have to kill you then. They had no clue what the army was for or what was going on in the galaxy they were just trying to deliver a prepaid for product to the Jedi order who they believed had ordered it. This is one of the tightest points in either of the two movies, the jedi were manipulated into going there and picking up a army the Kaminians were manipulated into building thinking they were for the Jedi so it would all be ready at the exact time there was a Galactic rebellion. I think you missed the point that the Kaminoians were not bad guys or in on what was going on, they were just being manipulated to insure a army was ready for Palpatine so he could manuver a civil war into happening so he could become a dictator. They were just pawns in all this. As far as Dooku not killing Obi Wan well of course he didn't he wasn't ready to reveal himself as a Sith Lord yet. Better to let the stupid bug people do it so he could claim he had tried to stop them. Look I hated the bug people and I disliked the arena scene but it did make sense the way it played out. I mean it was all manipulated to put pieces in certain positions at certain times, Dooku wasn't on the other side he was manipulating them into starting the war Palpatine wanted he was on his own side. Dooku wasn't the leader of the bug people he was the person who was inciting the separtist movement, All he had to do to clear himself of any wrongdoing in Amadala's execution was to say "it wasn't my fault, it was the bug people I tried to stop them". Also you have to wonder if the whole big public execution thing was just a elaborate trap to draw the jedi into, I mean it obviously was but maybe it was all planned to be that way. Heck just like the huge battle on Geonosis wasn't meaningless it was the culmination of a carefully laid trap by the Sith Lords over a ten year period. Every single little thing that happened happened by Palpatine's design (remember he can see the future too, that goes back to Empire and Jedi). Everything happened according to his design, he manipulated both sides into a war for the sole purpose of him becoming a dictator and you don't really think the separatist were ever a real threat, it was a war he designed that he knew he could win for the express purpose of eliminating the Jedi order. Heck even the Death Star thing, Dooku manipulated the Geonoshians into designing it and then stole the plans and took them to Palpatine, there was never any way that Palpatine or Dooku would of let the Geonoshians build a Death Star, Palpatine wanted the Republic to win in the end, that's how the empire was formed. Heck Dooku acting all upset about the big attack was just a act, it's what he had been working to see happen, he had planned out everything including his escape route, I mean do you think Palpatine was unaware of the impending attack on Geonosis or the Jedi order leaving to rescue Obi Wan? How hard would it of been for him to call his student and tell him to be ready. Let me reiterate, [i]The whole thing was a big giant set up, every little detail was planned by Palpatine[/i] (maybe even what happened to Anikin on Tatooine). He can see the future and his student is running the other side, it's all a big set up that worked to perfection. As much as I fault the movies I did get what was going on and how it tied into what happened in Jedi. [/QUOTE]
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