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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gizzard" data-source="post: 1306354" data-attributes="member: 527">Before I start again, I don't have any emotional attachement to these movies, but I do find it an interesting exercise to see if they make sense.  So, no hard feelings on my side, even if I may seem to be hammering at the EpI and EpII defenders.  Smiley face of conciliation -> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile    :-)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />OK, then on the scale of power in the universe this Clone Army is equivalent to Palpatines personal guard?  So, if you look at the final battle, then the Jedi, the Clones and Dooku's forces are all meant to be roughly equal in combat power?  It's going to be a funny name for the war, calling it the "Clone Wars", when really its a skirmish between a handful of small private armies.  If you follow this theory too far, you'd expect the army of the Republic to have billions of soldiers and thus be make control of the Clone Army insignificant.  So Palpatine delagates one of his Dark Jedi minions to go to Kamino and order a very small army cloned up for him.  But his instructions to the Kaminians are to give this army "to any Jedi", knowing full well that the good Jedi will discover this and take the army for themselves??  That seems like a stretch!And, where do the Clones fit in if theres a giant Army of the Republic?  Palpatine could just give Yoda (or preferably someone lame, like Jar-Jar!) command of a few battle groups and send him off to fight ineffectively againt Dooku for a couple years.  The secret Clone Army seems like a pointless complication (but an opportunity for some cool CG.)  I think GL just needed to move the plot along; he didn't worry about the logic of his characters.That's my point about the economics.  If we assume the army is big, there's only about twenty people in the Republic who can make this happen.  If we assume the Clone Army is small, the economics work but the logic doesn't - the Clones are too unimportant to be the pivot on which the galactic war rests.I think that Brin's explanation makes as much sense as GLs original plot.  And it's funnier.  ;-)  Like I said, I don't think GL thought deeply about the continuity at all.  He had some ideas of cool scenes and he need to get certain plot points to happen.  As DMs I think we've all been in this boat.  You wave your hands, have the Kaminians present the clue - "Look, the Clone Army" - and hope your players don't think hard about how it all fits together.  But in this case I think I can see the stitches holding EpI and EpII together, and I am disappointed.edit: oops, quotes got messed up.</blockquote>

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