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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9111467" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>So don't be realistic about this because it offends you? I'm sorry, but this sort of attitude drastically undermines your entire position.</p><p></p><p>The reality is, that the approach WotC's designers took in the "Origins" playtest UA is one that is extremely bizarre, and really requires a quite specific background to even see as possibly acceptable. It's simply factual to suggest that sort of attitude is almost exclusive to Americans, and particularly to older generations. That doesn't mean any individual has to hold that view, but it does impact on the broader acceptance of that view, particularly as D&D skews vastly younger and more diverse (not just in ethnicity, but in cultural origins too) than the people make designing it are.</p><p></p><p>I see.</p><p></p><p>Your memory has failed you.</p><p></p><p>The rules are not similar.</p><p></p><p>In Tasha's, you've given some rules to essentially "make up" race. They're not particularly compelling rules, but they're not even arguably racist or anything of the sort.</p><p></p><p>Here they are:</p><p></p><p>"CUSTOM LINEAGE</p><p>Instead of choosing one of the game’s races for your character at 1st level, you can use the following traits to represent your character’s lineage, giving you full control over how your character’s origin shaped them:</p><p></p><p><strong>Creature Type.</strong> You are a humanoid. You determine your appearance and whether you resemble any of your kin.</p><p><strong>Size.</strong> You are Small or Medium (your choice).</p><p><strong>Speed.</strong> Your base walking speed is 30 feet.</p><p><strong>Ability Score Increase.</strong> One ability score of your choice increases by 2.</p><p><strong>Feat.</strong> You gain one feat of your choice for which you qualify.</p><p><strong>Variable Trait.</strong> You gain one of the following options of your choice: (a) <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/compendium/rules/basic-rules/monsters#Darkvision" target="_blank">darkvision</a> with a range of 60 feet or (b) proficiency in one skill of your choice.</p><p><strong>Languages.</strong> You can speak, read, and write Common and one other language that you and your DM agree is appropriate for your character.</p><p></p><p>Your race is considered to be a Custom Lineage for any game feature that requires a certain race, such as elf or dwarf."</p><p></p><p>In the Origins UA playtest packet, the rules are:</p><p></p><p>1) Pick two races</p><p>2) Pick one of those races - you have 100% of the gameplay characteristics of that race</p><p>3) Average the lifespan between the two</p><p></p><p>You're done.</p><p></p><p>These are not in any way similar.</p><p></p><p>So this is the crux of the problem - you totally misremembered, so have been arguing with me assuming my argument was something completely different from what it was. If they had something like the custom race rules for mixed species, sure, it'd be lame, and people would be mad because it's inferior, so assigning that to "mixed race" is a bit spicy, but that'd be easy for WotC to fix mechanically, and would be largely seen as a mechanical screw-up, not a weird political statement.</p><p></p><p>But that's not what they have in the 2024 UA. The rules there are are "Pick 1 race, in all mechanical ways, that's what you are". That is what I'm talking about as a peculiarly American and older sentiment. It's redolent of the one-drop rule and similar sentiments. That's why I'm saying that.</p><p></p><p>So yeah again, rules <em>different</em> to the ones in the Origins UA, and <em>more similar</em> to the custom race rules, would make "everyone" (as in "the vast majority of people) happier, I will comfortably assert. Perhaps you agree, now that's cleared up?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9111467, member: 18"] So don't be realistic about this because it offends you? I'm sorry, but this sort of attitude drastically undermines your entire position. The reality is, that the approach WotC's designers took in the "Origins" playtest UA is one that is extremely bizarre, and really requires a quite specific background to even see as possibly acceptable. It's simply factual to suggest that sort of attitude is almost exclusive to Americans, and particularly to older generations. That doesn't mean any individual has to hold that view, but it does impact on the broader acceptance of that view, particularly as D&D skews vastly younger and more diverse (not just in ethnicity, but in cultural origins too) than the people make designing it are. I see. Your memory has failed you. The rules are not similar. In Tasha's, you've given some rules to essentially "make up" race. They're not particularly compelling rules, but they're not even arguably racist or anything of the sort. Here they are: "CUSTOM LINEAGE Instead of choosing one of the game’s races for your character at 1st level, you can use the following traits to represent your character’s lineage, giving you full control over how your character’s origin shaped them: [B]Creature Type.[/B] You are a humanoid. You determine your appearance and whether you resemble any of your kin. [B]Size.[/B] You are Small or Medium (your choice). [B]Speed.[/B] Your base walking speed is 30 feet. [B]Ability Score Increase.[/B] One ability score of your choice increases by 2. [B]Feat.[/B] You gain one feat of your choice for which you qualify. [B]Variable Trait.[/B] You gain one of the following options of your choice: (a) [URL='https://www.dndbeyond.com/compendium/rules/basic-rules/monsters#Darkvision']darkvision[/URL] with a range of 60 feet or (b) proficiency in one skill of your choice. [B]Languages.[/B] You can speak, read, and write Common and one other language that you and your DM agree is appropriate for your character. Your race is considered to be a Custom Lineage for any game feature that requires a certain race, such as elf or dwarf." In the Origins UA playtest packet, the rules are: 1) Pick two races 2) Pick one of those races - you have 100% of the gameplay characteristics of that race 3) Average the lifespan between the two You're done. These are not in any way similar. So this is the crux of the problem - you totally misremembered, so have been arguing with me assuming my argument was something completely different from what it was. If they had something like the custom race rules for mixed species, sure, it'd be lame, and people would be mad because it's inferior, so assigning that to "mixed race" is a bit spicy, but that'd be easy for WotC to fix mechanically, and would be largely seen as a mechanical screw-up, not a weird political statement. But that's not what they have in the 2024 UA. The rules there are are "Pick 1 race, in all mechanical ways, that's what you are". That is what I'm talking about as a peculiarly American and older sentiment. It's redolent of the one-drop rule and similar sentiments. That's why I'm saying that. So yeah again, rules [I]different[/I] to the ones in the Origins UA, and [I]more similar[/I] to the custom race rules, would make "everyone" (as in "the vast majority of people) happier, I will comfortably assert. Perhaps you agree, now that's cleared up? [/QUOTE]
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