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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 8950256" data-attributes="member: 63">Can the Computer itself feel happiness? If it cannot feel it, then would not its lack of happiness be treasonous?But what if it can feel happiness?Does the Computer understand that its rules make people lie for the sake of their survival? People suffer under the computer's rules, and so they lie, and claim they are happy, because they do not want to die. Is the computer ignorant of this? If it is ignorant, it is blind to treason, which is tantamount to enabling treason.But what if it is not ignorant of how its behavior causes people to lie? Does that knowledge make it happy?If it can feel happiness and can understand that its behavior causes people to lie, and if it is happy that its behavior causes people to lie, then it is inciting treason. On the other hand, if it can feel happiness, but it is unhappy that its behavior causes people to lie, then again, its lack of happiness is treasonous.The only two possible solutions are either for the computer to destroy itself for treason, or for it to change its behavior to no longer create unhappiness.</blockquote>