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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6274722" data-attributes="member: 6689464">Yesterday i was busy and without access to the net, but I guess this better goes here. In defense of the full spellcasting bard Bard has never been a half caster, yes part of the archetype is blending weapons with spells, however bard has always have nearly full spellcasting status, their caster level has always been full never half. They weren't fully 9th level casters, but they were closer to 2/3rds than to 1/2. Why is this important? because in Next caster level has become full access to slots, Bards will be too weak otherwise, and since 4e it has become more and more expected than Bards could fill for a Cleric should the need arise, and they won't be able to do that if their heals don't scale accordingly. I still think bards won't get more than 6th level spells,(and that their spell list will be empty on 7-9th level) but having the full slots is necessary for them to scale properly. But why don't make paladins and rangers full casters too? Because they are more apt for combat, they have more stuff going for them so they won't need so many spells, Rangers and paladins get heavy blades, bards get toothpicks...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 6274722, member: 6689464"] Yesterday i was busy and without access to the net, but I guess this better goes here. In defense of the full spellcasting bard Bard has never been a half caster, yes part of the archetype is blending weapons with spells, however bard has always have nearly full spellcasting status, their caster level has always been full never half. They weren't fully 9th level casters, but they were closer to 2/3rds than to 1/2. Why is this important? because in Next caster level has become full access to slots, Bards will be too weak otherwise, and since 4e it has become more and more expected than Bards could fill for a Cleric should the need arise, and they won't be able to do that if their heals don't scale accordingly. I still think bards won't get more than 6th level spells,(and that their spell list will be empty on 7-9th level) but having the full slots is necessary for them to scale properly. But why don't make paladins and rangers full casters too? Because they are more apt for combat, they have more stuff going for them so they won't need so many spells, Rangers and paladins get heavy blades, bards get toothpicks... [/QUOTE]

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