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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Halivar" data-source="post: 6274964" data-attributes="member: 9327">Still very dissatisfied with the bard.Mechanically it has always been a support class. This runs completely counter to its expressed theme in every edition. The bard in the PHB pictures and the bard in actual play might as well be from different classes.As it just so happens, I like neither its expressed thematic concept (the swashbuckling debonair) nor its actual mechanical design (the buff-caster).I want the bard out of the support role and into the role I believe it was designed in its original inception: a retired fighter with new-found knowledge into the deepest mysteries of druidism. Not a dabbler, mind you, but one who has been initiated in full. I'm talking about Taliesin or Myrddin Emrys. They aren't charismatic rogues. I'm tired of the buff-dispenser concept with the thinnest thematic veneer of swashbuckling ne'er-do-well we've seen for the last three editions. Whether it has full or half casting is irrelevant; if it continues to be a pure support class with no actual breakout potential then it will continue to have no traction with me or my players.</blockquote>