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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Halivar" data-source="post: 6275426" data-attributes="member: 9327">By no means do I think they bring no value to a party; but I think playing a sidekick is a pretty niche interest in our hobby. I would like the class to support a more dynamic range of play styles, such as the cleric, which can play either a support role or a center role depending on build and play. The proficiency bonus and full-casting of the 5E version I think will bring us there. The traditional support role will still be there if you choose that play style. Meanwhile, those looking to break out of the support role will have their play style facilitated, as well. Hopefully this is a win-win scenario.</blockquote>