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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rygar" data-source="post: 6285106" data-attributes="member: 6756765">If that's the case,  then they're in extremely deep trouble.The way they needed to release this was...Basic = 1st editionStandard = 2nd/3rd editionAdvanced = 4th editionThey needed to structure it such that people weren't forced to engage in mechanics they had previously rejected.  The format you describe means that 4th edition's mechanics are assumed and effectively unavoidable in the core,  and as we're seeing lately there are many and they are controversial.Releasing it in the format you describe creates a very high probability that 5th edition will bomb right out of the gate.  People were lead to believe that they could approximate their edition with ease,  not that they'd have to hack at the rules and negotiate at the table to approximate their edition.  It's likely many people never saw the increasing prevalence of 4th edition mechanics and haven't been following the articles,  they're going to get a huge surprise on release day as they did with 4th edition's release in the format you describe.  Which is *extremely* dangerous,  because if someone rejected 4th edition,  were happy with the early playtest packets that stepped away from 4th edition,  and they discover on release day that 4th edition is suddenly prevalent...that's going to be a very upset customer.I really don't see "Come play with the things you didn't want to play with before" as a winning business plan.Each article since the playtest ended has made me increasingly certain that 5th edition will sell well in the first quarter it is released,  Pathfinder will take the sales lead again in the second quarter,  and D&D will drop to 4th or 5th place after that.  Because I *really* don't think that all of the factions are going to buy into 5th edition long term and play with things they don't like.</blockquote>

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