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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6285936" data-attributes="member: 17106">That sounds fine to me. It's one of those things that I think would be hard to sell to traditionalists who like their omni-cleric and omni-wizard. But I wouldn't object to more specialized magic classes at all given how vague the traditional versions are. The specialized classes also allow more development; instead of being commoners with spells whose entire development is tied to this subsystem, beguilers can have some rogue skills, warmages can have some combat abilities, true necromancers can become liches, etc.It does seem that domains were supposed to do that, but they don't (at least, not in the core rules; given the spontaneous casting clerics from UA who have full access to their domain spells but not to cures, the domains can be game-changers).It's very odd given that conceptually it seems like divine casting makes more sense to go the spontaneous route or even the non-spell route (like a warlock), but that territory was never explored. With 5e, I had hoped the priest class might be that, but it was scrapped for some reason.Maybe, but you also left out some interesting ones like the dragon shaman (much better than the marshal), the scout, and some of the weird alternate magic stuff (incarnum and ToM). Not that it was all polished or even all good, but there is a lot of 3e material that could have been influential but has instead been ignored.I didn't have any trouble stepping back from, say, the 3e knight's challenges. Seems to me, rules-light, just say you're going to attack and be done with it is a pretty natural direction.Or like 3e. Those games were all built off the same system and shared similar goals. Modern tells us a lot about what D&D could be.With what? I mean, you may not like my direction for things, but I'm nothing if not consistent.</blockquote>

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