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<blockquote data-quote="drothgery" data-source="post: 3211228" data-attributes="member: 360"><p>Really? Dungy built a consistent playoff team in Tampa with just a defense worth of talent -- which someone else won a Super Bowl with the next year, and promptly disintegrated the year after that. And then Dungy went to Indy, where he's got an offense and a pass rush specialist. And he's consistently had the best regular season in the AFC, and has rarely fallen in the playoffs to anyone other than the eventual Super Bowl winner.</p><p></p><p>Belicheck has had fewer superstars, but that hardly means they had less talent. Especially in 2003 and 2004, the Pats have been above average on offense, defense, and special teams (though the main advantage of Venitari over Vanderjagt was not 'being clutch', it was on kickoffs, where he was much better than either Vanderjagt or the dedicated kickoff specialists the Colts started bringing in). He has more to do with the Pats success than Dungy does with the Colts, but that's only because he's wearing a GM hat as well; someone else is in that role in Indy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="drothgery, post: 3211228, member: 360"] Really? Dungy built a consistent playoff team in Tampa with just a defense worth of talent -- which someone else won a Super Bowl with the next year, and promptly disintegrated the year after that. And then Dungy went to Indy, where he's got an offense and a pass rush specialist. And he's consistently had the best regular season in the AFC, and has rarely fallen in the playoffs to anyone other than the eventual Super Bowl winner. Belicheck has had fewer superstars, but that hardly means they had less talent. Especially in 2003 and 2004, the Pats have been above average on offense, defense, and special teams (though the main advantage of Venitari over Vanderjagt was not 'being clutch', it was on kickoffs, where he was much better than either Vanderjagt or the dedicated kickoff specialists the Colts started bringing in). He has more to do with the Pats success than Dungy does with the Colts, but that's only because he's wearing a GM hat as well; someone else is in that role in Indy. [/QUOTE]
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