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<blockquote data-quote="John Crichton" data-source="post: 3228630" data-attributes="member: 4779"><p>See below.</p><p></p><p>Both games they won when they were the darlings of the NFC.</p><p></p><p>I'm well aware that penalties are a factor and they need to cut down but as I illustrated above, the penalties aren't losing them games at this point. And that's not to say that they won't lose them some games. We can talk stats about penalties and include New England the Chicago in the mix as big offenders as well.</p><p></p><p>Bigger factor - Start Romo in earlier in the year and the 'Boys may have 2 more wins.</p><p></p><p>Jones isn't a rookie (3rd year player, second year starter) and he has some skills as well as big-play ability. However, 13th in the league at anything isn't bad but I wouldn't put that firmly in the plus column. I'd put it right in the middle.</p><p></p><p>I agree that Witten is good and should be used more. Stats not needed here. Witten is getting many more touches now that Romo doesn't need him to stay back and pass protect all the time like they had to do with Bledsoe.</p><p></p><p>He is a first-year starter, which isn't the same thing but it certainly does put him clearly in the area of "still makes rookie mistakes."</p><p></p><p>Wait, did you just compare Owens to Brooks? Um, they aren't on the same level. That aside, TO hasn't proven this season that he's any better than his play indicates. I look more at consistency and current performance. TO hasn't been really good or an elite player since the Eagles went to the Super Bowl. If we want to talk about everyone playing out of their minds then that is a different discussion.</p><p></p><p>The bottom line is that nothing about the penalty statistics have shown that they lose games for the Cowboys. And that said, if they are that sloppy how can they be a legit threat?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Crichton, post: 3228630, member: 4779"] See below. Both games they won when they were the darlings of the NFC. I'm well aware that penalties are a factor and they need to cut down but as I illustrated above, the penalties aren't losing them games at this point. And that's not to say that they won't lose them some games. We can talk stats about penalties and include New England the Chicago in the mix as big offenders as well. Bigger factor - Start Romo in earlier in the year and the 'Boys may have 2 more wins. Jones isn't a rookie (3rd year player, second year starter) and he has some skills as well as big-play ability. However, 13th in the league at anything isn't bad but I wouldn't put that firmly in the plus column. I'd put it right in the middle. I agree that Witten is good and should be used more. Stats not needed here. Witten is getting many more touches now that Romo doesn't need him to stay back and pass protect all the time like they had to do with Bledsoe. He is a first-year starter, which isn't the same thing but it certainly does put him clearly in the area of "still makes rookie mistakes." Wait, did you just compare Owens to Brooks? Um, they aren't on the same level. That aside, TO hasn't proven this season that he's any better than his play indicates. I look more at consistency and current performance. TO hasn't been really good or an elite player since the Eagles went to the Super Bowl. If we want to talk about everyone playing out of their minds then that is a different discussion. The bottom line is that nothing about the penalty statistics have shown that they lose games for the Cowboys. And that said, if they are that sloppy how can they be a legit threat? [/QUOTE]
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