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<blockquote data-quote="John Crichton" data-source="post: 3264199" data-attributes="member: 4779"><p>I'm not ready to give up on Eli just yet. He could take 5 years to finally mature into a quality QB. Passing judgement on any young QB after just 2.5 seasons is silly. He has regressed this season but it's not Eli's fault that his teammates won't shut up and that the team is undisciplined. It is his fault that he floats passes and misses open receivers. I do think he needs to take more of a leadership role on the team, but that is very hard to do with the established loudmouths there. I think when Tiki and Strahan retire we'll start to see Manning take more ownership of the team.</p><p></p><p>The jury is still out on Rivers, just as it is on Manning. As for Merriman, that pick may not have been made by the G-men, but that trade for the moment doesn't look good for NY. There was a 3rd pick in there, too that turned out well for SD. Can't recall the player at the moment. Another point on Rivers - he is on one of the most complete and healthy teams in the league. He has LDT to run it and we all know how important a great running back is to a QB. Elway needed TD to finally win a SB. Rivers has Gates to throw to as well and a solid defense. Rivers hasn't had to win many games for the Chargers but he will in the playoffs. That will be interesting to see, especially if they play the Pats who will likely limit LDT.</p><p></p><p>Gosh, I love the playoffs. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Crichton, post: 3264199, member: 4779"] I'm not ready to give up on Eli just yet. He could take 5 years to finally mature into a quality QB. Passing judgement on any young QB after just 2.5 seasons is silly. He has regressed this season but it's not Eli's fault that his teammates won't shut up and that the team is undisciplined. It is his fault that he floats passes and misses open receivers. I do think he needs to take more of a leadership role on the team, but that is very hard to do with the established loudmouths there. I think when Tiki and Strahan retire we'll start to see Manning take more ownership of the team. The jury is still out on Rivers, just as it is on Manning. As for Merriman, that pick may not have been made by the G-men, but that trade for the moment doesn't look good for NY. There was a 3rd pick in there, too that turned out well for SD. Can't recall the player at the moment. Another point on Rivers - he is on one of the most complete and healthy teams in the league. He has LDT to run it and we all know how important a great running back is to a QB. Elway needed TD to finally win a SB. Rivers has Gates to throw to as well and a solid defense. Rivers hasn't had to win many games for the Chargers but he will in the playoffs. That will be interesting to see, especially if they play the Pats who will likely limit LDT. Gosh, I love the playoffs. :cool: [/QUOTE]
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