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<blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 5395924" data-attributes="member: 20805">Stalker0's Obsideon system {link in sig below} has been the life-breath for me in skill challenges.I think the three keys to 'done well' are:- Get the players out of the mode of the &quot;skill challenge = roll best skill&quot; mode of thinking and into the &quot;what can my character do&quot; mode- encourage the story telling aspect over the dice rolling aspect.- They have to matter. Sometimes its better to gloss over the scene, or use a complex skill check rather than use a skill challenge. Ideally the plot line shifts because of the challenge. A skill challenge should have as much prep work as an encounter with the BBEG.&nbsp;Stalker0's system helps in that the DCs are set so that a moderate skill will succeed, then couple that with the ruling of &quot;tell me what your PC does and I will determine the skill to use, and maybe give you a bonus to the roll&quot;&nbsp;I have had a player successfully use his skill at a bow in a diplomatic situation, showing his expertise and the courage {or stupidity} of his fellow partner {whom he ended up critically hitting}. Since the display was to some barbaric types, it worked.&nbsp;My group still isn't fully immersed, but we are getting there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Primitive Screwhead, post: 5395924, member: 20805"] Stalker0's Obsideon system {link in sig below} has been the life-breath for me in skill challenges. I think the three keys to 'done well' are: - Get the players out of the mode of the "skill challenge = roll best skill" mode of thinking and into the "what can my character do" mode - encourage the story telling aspect over the dice rolling aspect. - They have to matter. Sometimes its better to gloss over the scene, or use a complex skill check rather than use a skill challenge. Ideally the plot line shifts because of the challenge. A skill challenge should have as much prep work as an encounter with the BBEG. Stalker0's system helps in that the DCs are set so that a moderate skill will succeed, then couple that with the ruling of "tell me what your PC does and I will determine the skill to use, and maybe give you a bonus to the roll" I have had a player successfully use his skill at a bow in a diplomatic situation, showing his expertise and the courage {or stupidity} of his fellow partner {whom he ended up critically hitting}. Since the display was to some barbaric types, it worked. My group still isn't fully immersed, but we are getting there. [/QUOTE]

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