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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5396546" data-attributes="member: 82106">Skills? Of course we use skills. I don't really grasp how you could have an interesting game of 4e without constant use of skill checks. Every time one of the PCs tries anything there is pretty much going to be a skill check. A lot of them are easy checks, but they still add an element of fun and tension (now and then a character fails one and slips up). If I have any issue it is that the players are constantly bombarding me with skill rolls, lol. As soon as they say &quot;My character tries X&quot; the dice are hitting the table.Skill challenges are a great tool. Not everyone has apparently been able to master using them well. Perhaps they don't fit in really well with some group's play style either. I know groups that hardly ever have combat encounters either (though it is fairly rare with D&amp;D players). The basic answer is obviously that SCs can be great. The best advice is to make them organic, that is don't lay it out mechanically in the midst of a narrative. Let the players just go about doing what they think should be done and keep explaining what happens when they do things. When you need to measure their attempts against some kind of failure criteria then use the SC framework to do that.Personally I run a lot of ad-hoc SCs. They are usually low complexity kinds of things, but not always.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5396546, member: 82106"] Skills? Of course we use skills. I don't really grasp how you could have an interesting game of 4e without constant use of skill checks. Every time one of the PCs tries anything there is pretty much going to be a skill check. A lot of them are easy checks, but they still add an element of fun and tension (now and then a character fails one and slips up). If I have any issue it is that the players are constantly bombarding me with skill rolls, lol. As soon as they say "My character tries X" the dice are hitting the table. Skill challenges are a great tool. Not everyone has apparently been able to master using them well. Perhaps they don't fit in really well with some group's play style either. I know groups that hardly ever have combat encounters either (though it is fairly rare with D&D players). The basic answer is obviously that SCs can be great. The best advice is to make them organic, that is don't lay it out mechanically in the midst of a narrative. Let the players just go about doing what they think should be done and keep explaining what happens when they do things. When you need to measure their attempts against some kind of failure criteria then use the SC framework to do that. Personally I run a lot of ad-hoc SCs. They are usually low complexity kinds of things, but not always. [/QUOTE]

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