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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5851447" data-attributes="member: 463">This is what I mean about using acceptance of restrictions as a marker for whether someone is the sort of player I want to play with.  I'm tempted to stick in some completely arbitrary restrictions just to winkle them out! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil    :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" />On the other side, a GM who sets no restrictions may indicate that they don't really care about their campaign, and/or that they are not going to exercise control at their table, so that it may devolve into a munchkin fest dominated by the most aggressive players. On the other hand, a completely open game may be better than the GM who sets restrictions, but then selectively relaxes them for the more aggressive/domineering players.  Like the Savage Worlds zombie game where we were supposed to be 'normal people', but then one guy turns up with his ex-SAS officer - that was a warning sign.  If the GM had put his foot down it would have been a much better game.  Or if he'd just told us to go wild with cheesy OTT character concepts in the first place - but I think it was supposed to be a 'serious' horror game.When I first ran 4e I allowed all sources, but then had to selectively ban or nerf stuff. My best experiences as a player have been with GMs who list a limited set of allowed sources and let the players create PCs with those.  I was very impressed by the result, and adopted this approach for my own games.  If I want to allow in additional material I then consult with the players, who often say 'No'.  Eg I allowed the Martial Power books in my Swords & Sorcery campaign, they fit great with the theme.  I then suggested allowing them in my Forgotten Realms campaign, but the players objected and I think they were right.</blockquote>

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