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<blockquote data-quote="Aluvial" data-source="post: 5711640" data-attributes="member: 6862"><p>I agree with you Frank. The cheese is high! I repeat, the cheese is high!</p><p> </p><p>Anyhow, I read the description of the counterspell ring, which rthen efers to counterspelling. The act of counterspelling says that the act of counterspelling breaks the spells as it is cast, not as it effects. It prevents the casting of the spell at the time of the casting. (all this by memory) Here is the text that opens the counterspelling section in the PHB Here is the direct quote from the PHB about fireballs. Here is some text about how area spells affect creatures Does this line about each creature in an area being affected "like a targeted spell" mean that the creature who has an area spell cast "upon" them can counterspell? I don't want it to work this way.</p><p> </p><p>I think everyone in the thread here is right about it not working, however, I don't think the rules support this/us. I have two PC's with these rings, and both have Greater Dispel Magic in them. Now, I have to cast three Dispel Magics to affect the group, who have a BAD habit of seeing an encounter, retreating, buffing, and then wiping out the ill-organized defenders. I read the opinion in the other post that the BOTH rings would fire if they had the same spell, which I like. I also read the opinion that the ring knows to counterspell even if the creature wearing wasn't aware of the attempt.</p><p> </p><p>I play my intelligent enemies better... waiting out the buffs, creating lines of defenders to wear down the buffs... using a few wands of Dispel Magic with a few low level guys to wear down the protections... but tough smash and grab monsters don't stand a chance if they are just trying to protect their cozy little caves.</p><p> </p><p>Aluvial</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aluvial, post: 5711640, member: 6862"] I agree with you Frank. The cheese is high! I repeat, the cheese is high! Anyhow, I read the description of the counterspell ring, which rthen efers to counterspelling. The act of counterspelling says that the act of counterspelling breaks the spells as it is cast, not as it effects. It prevents the casting of the spell at the time of the casting. (all this by memory) Here is the text that opens the counterspelling section in the PHB Here is the direct quote from the PHB about fireballs. Here is some text about how area spells affect creatures Does this line about each creature in an area being affected "like a targeted spell" mean that the creature who has an area spell cast "upon" them can counterspell? I don't want it to work this way. I think everyone in the thread here is right about it not working, however, I don't think the rules support this/us. I have two PC's with these rings, and both have Greater Dispel Magic in them. Now, I have to cast three Dispel Magics to affect the group, who have a BAD habit of seeing an encounter, retreating, buffing, and then wiping out the ill-organized defenders. I read the opinion in the other post that the BOTH rings would fire if they had the same spell, which I like. I also read the opinion that the ring knows to counterspell even if the creature wearing wasn't aware of the attempt. I play my intelligent enemies better... waiting out the buffs, creating lines of defenders to wear down the buffs... using a few wands of Dispel Magic with a few low level guys to wear down the protections... but tough smash and grab monsters don't stand a chance if they are just trying to protect their cozy little caves. Aluvial [/QUOTE]
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