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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3306503" data-attributes="member: 1656">Remember, if a rogue is in the centre of a 30' radius circular room, and someone casts fireball centred on that point (so that much of the room, for 20 feet in every direction, is contained within the spell's area), the rogue is allowed both saving throw and Evasion... and success means he takes no damage.&nbsp; He does not, however, suddenly appear in the outer ten feet of the room (which were not affected by the spell).&nbsp; His Evasion takes place within his own square... at the centre of the spell's area.Now shrink the room to 20 foot radius.&nbsp; The entire room is now contained within the spell's area.&nbsp; What effect does this have on the rogue's save and Evasion?&nbsp; None whatsoever... he still performs his entire Evasion within his own square.&nbsp; The fact that some squares 20 feet away that were open are now solid rock makes no difference.Now we chain the rogue to a rock in the centre of the room.&nbsp; He now cannot use Evasion, as he is bound.&nbsp; Arguably, he cannot make a Reflex save either, since &quot;As with a Reflex save for any creature, a character must have room to move in order to use Evasion&quot;.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3306503, member: 1656"] Remember, if a rogue is in the centre of a 30' radius circular room, and someone casts fireball centred on that point (so that much of the room, for 20 feet in every direction, is contained within the spell's area), the rogue is allowed both saving throw and Evasion... and success means he takes no damage. He does not, however, suddenly appear in the outer ten feet of the room (which were not affected by the spell). His Evasion takes place within his own square... at the centre of the spell's area. Now shrink the room to 20 foot radius. The [i]entire room[/i] is now contained within the spell's area. What effect does this have on the rogue's save and Evasion? None whatsoever... he still performs his entire Evasion within his own square. The fact that some squares 20 feet away that were open are now solid rock makes no difference. Now we chain the rogue to a rock in the centre of the room. He now cannot use Evasion, as he is bound. Arguably, he cannot make a Reflex save either, since "As with a Reflex save for any creature, a character must have room to move in order to use Evasion". -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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