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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8506176" data-attributes="member: 7032025">No, there are no such things. Some players / races / classes will be more or less efficient depending of circumstances, this is totally unavoidable due to the open nature of the game. The problem is that controlling games like 4e tried to deal with the chaos by using a number of small individual scale solutions that stiffled the game. While technically very good, the game lacked soul, it was not open.The right solution for 5e is not to try to deal with each component individually, because it would require a bottom up redesign of each component that might lead to an imbalance, starting with all the classes themselves. The right solution is to deal with it globally, as a DM, with all the reins in his hand to make sure that everyone has the same opportunity for fun, and without being constrained by smaller subsystem imposing local constraints that prevent an optimal solution. And maybe intrinsically some classes can save resources for the BBEG and others can't, but it does not matter when the DM has all the tools at his disposal, circumstances of the fight, characteristics of the BBEG, magic items, spells, minions whatever to compensate for it ? Also, why does it matter if some characters shine more than others in a fight ? It's only one of the three tiers of the game anyway, maybe the others will shine more in other circumstances, before the fight, after the fight, for other reasons during the fight. Stop trying to look for local equilibriums, they are totally artificial and pointless in the big picture of the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8506176, member: 7032025"] No, there are no such things. Some players / races / classes will be more or less efficient depending of circumstances, this is totally unavoidable due to the open nature of the game. The problem is that controlling games like 4e tried to deal with the chaos by using a number of small individual scale solutions that stiffled the game. While technically very good, the game lacked soul, it was not open. The right solution for 5e is not to try to deal with each component individually, because it would require a bottom up redesign of each component that might lead to an imbalance, starting with all the classes themselves. The right solution is to deal with it globally, as a DM, with all the reins in his hand to make sure that everyone has the same opportunity for fun, and without being constrained by smaller subsystem imposing local constraints that prevent an optimal solution. And maybe intrinsically some classes can save resources for the BBEG and others can't, but it does not matter when the DM has all the tools at his disposal, circumstances of the fight, characteristics of the BBEG, magic items, spells, minions whatever to compensate for it ? Also, why does it matter if some characters shine more than others in a fight ? It's only one of the three tiers of the game anyway, maybe the others will shine more in other circumstances, before the fight, after the fight, for other reasons during the fight. Stop trying to look for local equilibriums, they are totally artificial and pointless in the big picture of the game. [/QUOTE]

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