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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 5075398" data-attributes="member: 149">There was barely funding to get a somewhat updated Apollo capsule up to the ISS. There was never any budget for Ares to accomplish the goals of going to the moon or mars. There was never any funding for actually doing anything other than a few vague design studies. There was NEVER anything there.You might be happy with a couple of power point presentations and CGI animations that will have as their only real world effect the selling of some issues of "Popular Science".Me I'd like to see some actual programs that have the funding to actually accomplish something. Preferably something that will actually build some infrastructure that will enable something to get done other than satellites and some vanity projects.That hasn't happened or been in the cards for 40 years now.Burt Rutan, SpaceX and the X-prize have done more in the past 5 years towards that goal than NASA has in the past 30. They've failed us horribly and that's something I can't forgive them for. These continuing exercises in PR to make the Prez look like he's got a vision, only rub salt in the wounds.</blockquote>