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<blockquote data-quote="JamesDJarvis" data-source="post: 2577566" data-attributes="member: 2515">I've noticed search and hide get used a lot more then backstabbing. Not getting sneak attacks does not = ineffrective.&nbsp; Sure they are less effective then they are against some types but not ineffective.Clearly the person playing the Mystic theurge just created that character and seldom plays spell casters. &nbsp; Try that trick just once too often and oh look... the spell that would have saved the party had a verbal component or&nbsp; oops the party could have coordinated attacks before hand but they couldn't talk to each other because of the silence.Gurads in a fantasy universe may notice the silence.&nbsp;&nbsp; They'd run for help. Of course someone would attack them to stop them running for help and then the invisibility sphere&nbsp; is off.&nbsp;&nbsp; And nothing else in the entire game universe is doing anything other then the ninja?&nbsp; The ninja doesn't see anything he has to act against?&nbsp; The rest of the party is hiding in some sort of detectionless pocket dimension while the ninja is scouting?&nbsp; &nbsp; The ninja is another skills guys (just like the rogue), so how is he or she different from a rogue with some magical assistance from others in the party?edit- dernit should read the last two posts</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JamesDJarvis, post: 2577566, member: 2515"] I've noticed search and hide get used a lot more then backstabbing. Not getting sneak attacks does not = ineffrective. Sure they are less effective then they are against some types but not ineffective. Clearly the person playing the Mystic theurge just created that character and seldom plays spell casters. Try that trick just once too often and oh look... the spell that would have saved the party had a verbal component or oops the party could have coordinated attacks before hand but they couldn't talk to each other because of the silence. Gurads in a fantasy universe may notice the silence. They'd run for help. Of course someone would attack them to stop them running for help and then the invisibility sphere is off. And nothing else in the entire game universe is doing anything other then the ninja? The ninja doesn't see anything he has to act against? The rest of the party is hiding in some sort of detectionless pocket dimension while the ninja is scouting? The ninja is another skills guys (just like the rogue), so how is he or she different from a rogue with some magical assistance from others in the party? edit- dernit should read the last two posts [/QUOTE]

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