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<blockquote data-quote="Kilroy" data-source="post: 2583527" data-attributes="member: 5299"><p>By 'melee immunity' I mean that until the Greater Dispel caster goes, the dragon would have pretty much free reigh in melee, with an insane AC, a 50% miss chance and Mirror Image. In a situation where the dragon has surprise (certainly not the case here, but it's happened to us) this really sucks when the first thing they do is flyby snatch the Greater Dispel caster. So, pretty much the opposite of what happened to you. ;-)</p><p></p><p>Practiced Caster makes buffs much more survivable, and two NPCs in our current module have already had Rings of Counterspelling (Dispel Magic). I'm sure they'll up to Greater Dispel now that we have it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd hope a smart dragon would know this and scram to fight another day. Although given the treasure, this sure doesn't sound like a smart dragon.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Once in a while, but not as a rule. It varies by campaign. Usually if we get jumped by somone really prepared, we just have to live long enough to escape, but the major bad guys do the same. Our current 12th level campaign is particularly bad at it because of a coward flawed ninja and an "I'm going to try talking to them" Favored Soul. My character has made a habit of saying in advance that he's going to say "I told you so" when the party won't, out of principle, jump in and kill everything in the room, and talking inevitably fails. In previous games, we've done some excellent large scale ambushes.</p><p></p><p>Our current DM runs the same campaign arcs for two different groups of players, so sometimes we hear about how the other group handled things after the fact. In the current campaign, they're definantly getting the upper hand in ambushes, but in the last one, we were.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kilroy, post: 2583527, member: 5299"] By 'melee immunity' I mean that until the Greater Dispel caster goes, the dragon would have pretty much free reigh in melee, with an insane AC, a 50% miss chance and Mirror Image. In a situation where the dragon has surprise (certainly not the case here, but it's happened to us) this really sucks when the first thing they do is flyby snatch the Greater Dispel caster. So, pretty much the opposite of what happened to you. ;-) Practiced Caster makes buffs much more survivable, and two NPCs in our current module have already had Rings of Counterspelling (Dispel Magic). I'm sure they'll up to Greater Dispel now that we have it. I'd hope a smart dragon would know this and scram to fight another day. Although given the treasure, this sure doesn't sound like a smart dragon. Once in a while, but not as a rule. It varies by campaign. Usually if we get jumped by somone really prepared, we just have to live long enough to escape, but the major bad guys do the same. Our current 12th level campaign is particularly bad at it because of a coward flawed ninja and an "I'm going to try talking to them" Favored Soul. My character has made a habit of saying in advance that he's going to say "I told you so" when the party won't, out of principle, jump in and kill everything in the room, and talking inevitably fails. In previous games, we've done some excellent large scale ambushes. Our current DM runs the same campaign arcs for two different groups of players, so sometimes we hear about how the other group handled things after the fact. In the current campaign, they're definantly getting the upper hand in ambushes, but in the last one, we were. [/QUOTE]
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