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<blockquote data-quote="Fauchard1520" data-source="post: 8350004" data-attributes="member: 6896326">If there are any rogues in your life, you may be familiar with a certain strain of argument. Stop me if you’ve heard this one before.“But I’m standing <a href="http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/40300000/Dora-the-Explorer-Season-2-Episode-22-Hide-and-Go-Seek-dora-the-explorer-40359378-640-480.jpg" target="_blank">slightly</a> to one side of the golem. It didn’t know I was there!”Or how about this one?“I thought we were playing with the flanking rules?”Or if you have the questionably-good fortune to party with an <a href="https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Monsters:Assassin#content" target="_blank">assassin</a>, perhaps you’ve heard some variation on this one?“I’m first in the initiative. That’s surprise, right? That’s an auto-crit, right?”Part of this is just the nature of the game. You're incentivized to ask for advantage by the mechanics of the game. But part of this is egregious argument, and it can get old in a hurry if you let it. Therefore, in the name of amusing D&amp;D anecdotes, what is the most egregious example you’ve seen of “greedy PC rhetoric?” Did it work, or did it get shut down? And more generally, how for should DMs be willing to put up with this behavior? (<a href="https://www.handbookofheroes.com/archives/comic/advantageous-position" target="_blank">Comic for illustrative purposes</a>.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fauchard1520, post: 8350004, member: 6896326"] If there are any rogues in your life, you may be familiar with a certain strain of argument. Stop me if you’ve heard this one before. “But I’m standing [URL='http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/40300000/Dora-the-Explorer-Season-2-Episode-22-Hide-and-Go-Seek-dora-the-explorer-40359378-640-480.jpg'][B]slightly[/B][/URL] to one side of the golem. It didn’t know I was there!” Or how about this one? “I thought we were playing with the flanking rules?” Or if you have the questionably-good fortune to party with an [URL='https://roll20.net/compendium/dnd5e/Monsters:Assassin#content'][B]assassin[/B][/URL], perhaps you’ve heard some variation on this one? “I’m first in the initiative. That’s surprise, right? That’s an auto-crit, right?” Part of this is just the nature of the game. You're incentivized to ask for advantage by the mechanics of the game. But part of this is egregious argument, and it can get old in a hurry if you let it. Therefore, in the name of amusing D&D anecdotes, what is the most egregious example you’ve seen of “greedy PC rhetoric?” Did it work, or did it get shut down? And more generally, how for should DMs be willing to put up with this behavior? ([URL='https://www.handbookofheroes.com/archives/comic/advantageous-position'][B]Comic for illustrative purposes[/B][/URL].) [/QUOTE]

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