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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8533006" data-attributes="member: 22779">Well, actually, [USER=7034738]@DarkMantle[/USER], I do want to thank you for helping me reach a bit of an epiphany.The conversation around racism and whatnot in the game is largely over.&nbsp; It's done.&nbsp; We know that WotC is making changes.&nbsp; WotC has already made many changes and is commited to doing more.&nbsp; So, really, job done.&nbsp; Now it's time to watch and make sure that things are moving along, but, really, all the sound and thunder over things like orcs and whatnot is just people digging in their heels.I mean, look at it like this.&nbsp; Some years ago, the art of D&amp;D was criticised for using cheesecake.&nbsp; And, now, we don't see cheesecake art in WotC publications.&nbsp; Then D&amp;D was criticised for inclusiveness.&nbsp; And things got changed.&nbsp; You see all sorts of changes in the art and presentation in the game.&nbsp; Paizo very rightly deserves a lot of credit for what it's done as well.Then it was LGBTQ+ issues.&nbsp; Well, elves, one of the most popular races in the game outside of humans, are now all gender fluid whose main deity is a non-binary gender fluid individual.&nbsp; Again, job largely done.It was pointed out that many of the older publications are ... perhaps less than sensitive.&nbsp; So, now there's a honking big disclaimer there.So, now it's basically just mopping up the small stuff.&nbsp; The orc stuff and the drow stuff and various other bits and bobs, in the grand scheme of things probably aren't terribly earth shattering issues, despite the rhetoric around them.&nbsp; Like I said, what, exactly, are you expecting to happen here?&nbsp; The race is largely done and those voices who opposed change by and large lost.&nbsp; The change is happening regardless of how many &quot;Was this really racist&quot; type threads we see. It's healthy to keep talking about it, but, it's healthier to realize that there really isn't a whole lot that needs to be done.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8533006, member: 22779"] Well, actually, [USER=7034738]@DarkMantle[/USER], I do want to thank you for helping me reach a bit of an epiphany. The conversation around racism and whatnot in the game is largely over. It's done. We know that WotC is making changes. WotC has already made many changes and is commited to doing more. So, really, job done. Now it's time to watch and make sure that things are moving along, but, really, all the sound and thunder over things like orcs and whatnot is just people digging in their heels. I mean, look at it like this. Some years ago, the art of D&D was criticised for using cheesecake. And, now, we don't see cheesecake art in WotC publications. Then D&D was criticised for inclusiveness. And things got changed. You see all sorts of changes in the art and presentation in the game. Paizo very rightly deserves a lot of credit for what it's done as well. Then it was LGBTQ+ issues. Well, elves, one of the most popular races in the game outside of humans, are now all gender fluid whose main deity is a non-binary gender fluid individual. Again, job largely done. It was pointed out that many of the older publications are ... perhaps less than sensitive. So, now there's a honking big disclaimer there. So, now it's basically just mopping up the small stuff. The orc stuff and the drow stuff and various other bits and bobs, in the grand scheme of things probably aren't terribly earth shattering issues, despite the rhetoric around them. Like I said, what, exactly, are you expecting to happen here? The race is largely done and those voices who opposed change by and large lost. The change is happening regardless of how many "Was this [I]really [/I]racist" type threads we see. It's healthy to keep talking about it, but, it's healthier to realize that there really isn't a whole lot that needs to be done. [/QUOTE]

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