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<blockquote data-quote="aboyd" data-source="post: 4963945" data-attributes="member: 44797">OK, so he's tired of you pushing him.&nbsp; Maybe you should take the hint.So he's feeling overwhelmed, and he's taken a step to reign it in, and you've basically pressured him over &amp; over again, to the point of (by your own words) daily nagging until he starts saying no &quot;just for the sake of saying no.&quot;If you're such a senior DM, you ought to have respected his need to reign it in, and you ought to have been a shining example of a player who uses only the core books.God.&nbsp; That's not loaded at all.&nbsp; Nope.&nbsp; Not at all.&nbsp; He'll feel great that you've essentially gone on record stating that he either does it your way or he sucks as a DM.&nbsp; Excellent.&nbsp; Well, when he comes here to read this stuff, he can also read my response: Dude, your &quot;player with 15 years experience as a DM&quot; is playing you, and is rude to put you between a rock &amp; a hard place like this, and if you feel put upon, you are right to feel that way.&nbsp; Frankly, I would give this player the boot.&nbsp; He's manipulating you.Ah.&nbsp; So you've asked the DM for an inch, but you're already planning to take a mile.&nbsp; Wow.Look, you're using your experience as a DM, and his inexperience as a DM, to backseat drive.&nbsp; You want to be a player, then play and stop trying to make this guy your puppet.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="aboyd, post: 4963945, member: 44797"] OK, so he's tired of you pushing him. Maybe you should take the hint. So he's feeling overwhelmed, and he's taken a step to reign it in, and you've basically pressured him over & over again, to the point of (by your own words) daily nagging until he starts saying no "just for the sake of saying no." If you're such a senior DM, you ought to have respected his need to reign it in, and you ought to have been a shining example of a player who uses only the core books. God. That's not loaded at [i]all[/i]. Nope. Not at all. He'll feel [i]great[/i] that you've essentially gone on record stating that he either does it your way or he sucks as a DM. Excellent. Well, when he comes here to read this stuff, he can also read my response: Dude, your "player with 15 years experience as a DM" is playing you, and is rude to put you between a rock & a hard place like this, and if you feel put upon, you are right to feel that way. Frankly, I would give this player the boot. He's manipulating you. Ah. So you've asked the DM for an inch, but you're already planning to take a mile. Wow. Look, you're using your experience as a DM, and his inexperience as a DM, to backseat drive. You want to be a player, then [i]play[/i] and stop trying to make this guy your puppet. [/QUOTE]

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