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arguing with my DM: The Leadership feat(and a wizard)
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<blockquote data-quote="Dzyu" data-source="post: 4965192" data-attributes="member: 85050"><p>No Oryan77. You haven't been listening. It depends on the campaign and rules of play.</p><p> </p><p>If the DM says <em>"everything in pathfinder core is cool, with the exception of these house rules. I might allow things from various 3,5 books, but I'll have to approve anything you might want from those."</em> I'll play by that. So when I later say <em>"I'm considering taking the leadership feat as well"</em> and he replies <em>"What? that's stupid. Your character could never possibly attract a cohort and/or followers. I find the idea ridiculous. The leadership feat should have a charisma requirement."</em>, of course I challenge this. He was presumptuous, claiming to know more about my character than I in a manner.</p><p> </p><p>Maybe "fake, but nice" works for you, but I think it's better being honest and straight forward. After all, the DM bases the creation of his campaign on the feedback of his players to better be able to make it fun for everyone. Limits are fine, but if that's how it's gonna be i want to be prepared for it so I don't get disappointed. Either way, it's not really the part that I don't get a feat, or the fact that he said no to something I was considering, cause both of those has happened before. It's the manner in which it happened. In essence, he brought it upon himself.</p><p> </p><p>I apologized because in response to his behaviour, I, rather than trying to see why he was so brazen, judged him and said some pretty harsh things on msn, calling his <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />(bull's excrement). Like he said, he had some girl-related issues, and I actually knew that he had been a bit depressed(Though not to this extent. I didn't think it was such a big deal.), so I should've been more unterstanding and insightful as to why he was acting like he did. I just didn't think of it in that way.</p><p> </p><p>Anyways, arguing further is pointless because I don't think any of you can possibly know our situation well enough to comment on this level. Any speculation on information given WILL be incomplete because I fail to relay it properly, and frankly, it's already beyond silly, and too personal.</p><p>Either way, I don't claim to be flawless, so I will reflect on what has been said.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dzyu, post: 4965192, member: 85050"] No Oryan77. You haven't been listening. It depends on the campaign and rules of play. If the DM says [I]"everything in pathfinder core is cool, with the exception of these house rules. I might allow things from various 3,5 books, but I'll have to approve anything you might want from those."[/I] I'll play by that. So when I later say [I]"I'm considering taking the leadership feat as well"[/I] and he replies [I]"What? that's stupid. Your character could never possibly attract a cohort and/or followers. I find the idea ridiculous. The leadership feat should have a charisma requirement."[/I], of course I challenge this. He was presumptuous, claiming to know more about my character than I in a manner. Maybe "fake, but nice" works for you, but I think it's better being honest and straight forward. After all, the DM bases the creation of his campaign on the feedback of his players to better be able to make it fun for everyone. Limits are fine, but if that's how it's gonna be i want to be prepared for it so I don't get disappointed. Either way, it's not really the part that I don't get a feat, or the fact that he said no to something I was considering, cause both of those has happened before. It's the manner in which it happened. In essence, he brought it upon himself. I apologized because in response to his behaviour, I, rather than trying to see why he was so brazen, judged him and said some pretty harsh things on msn, calling his :):):):):):):):)(bull's excrement). Like he said, he had some girl-related issues, and I actually knew that he had been a bit depressed(Though not to this extent. I didn't think it was such a big deal.), so I should've been more unterstanding and insightful as to why he was acting like he did. I just didn't think of it in that way. Anyways, arguing further is pointless because I don't think any of you can possibly know our situation well enough to comment on this level. Any speculation on information given WILL be incomplete because I fail to relay it properly, and frankly, it's already beyond silly, and too personal. Either way, I don't claim to be flawless, so I will reflect on what has been said. [/QUOTE]
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