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<blockquote data-quote="smbakeresq" data-source="post: 7487777" data-attributes="member: 28301">The HexBlade spam is ridiculous.&nbsp; Test your players and ask them if they read these parts:&quot;You have made your pact with a mysterious entity from the Shadowfell—a force that manifests in sentient magic weapons carved from the stuff of shadow. The mighty sword Blackrazor is the most notable of these weapons, which have been spread across the multiverse over the ages. The shadowy force behind these weapons can offer power to warlocks who form pacts with it. Many hexblade warlocks create weapons that emulate those formed in the Shadowfell. Others forgo such arms, content to weave the dark magic of that plane into their spellcasting. Because the Raven Queen is known to have forged the ﬁrst of these weapons, many sages speculate that she and the force are one and that the weapons, along with hexblade warlocks, are tools she uses to manipulate events on the Material Plane to her inscrutable ends.&quot;To me it seems such a pact would never be granted to a good aligned PC (unless to subvert the PC) nor would any good aligned PC search them out.&nbsp; Using the tools to &quot;manipulate events on the Material Plane to her inscrutable ends&quot; to me means the hexblade probably wouldn't play well with others.&nbsp; I am not even sure the Pact creature would continue to grant the Pacts benefits if you multiclass just to dip as:&quot;A pact can range from a loose agreement to a formal contract with lengthy, detailed clauses and lists of requirements. The terms of a pact—what a warlock must do to receive a patron’s favor—are always dictated by the patron. On occasion, those terms include a special proviso that might seem odd or whimsical, but warlocks take these dictates as seriously as they do the other requirements of their pacts. Does your character have a pact that requires you to change your behavior in an unusual or seemingly frivolous way? Even if your patron hasn’t imposed such a duty on you already, that’s not to say it couldn't still happen.&quot;That seems to me the DM dictates ALL the terms and change them at ANY time for ANY reason.&nbsp; It is certainly within DM bounds to withhold Warlock features and benefits until you &quot;show your devotion to me&quot; i.e. gain more levels in the Warlock class.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="smbakeresq, post: 7487777, member: 28301"] The HexBlade spam is ridiculous. Test your players and ask them if they read these parts: "You have made your pact with a mysterious entity from the Shadowfell—a force that manifests in sentient magic weapons carved from the stuff of shadow. The mighty sword Blackrazor is the most notable of these weapons, which have been spread across the multiverse over the ages. The shadowy force behind these weapons can offer power to warlocks who form pacts with it. Many hexblade warlocks create weapons that emulate those formed in the Shadowfell. Others forgo such arms, content to weave the dark magic of that plane into their spellcasting. Because the Raven Queen is known to have forged the ﬁrst of these weapons, many sages speculate that she and the force are one and that the weapons, along with hexblade warlocks, are tools she uses to manipulate events on the Material Plane to her inscrutable ends." To me it seems such a pact would never be granted to a good aligned PC (unless to subvert the PC) nor would any good aligned PC search them out. Using the tools to "manipulate events on the Material Plane to her inscrutable ends" to me means the hexblade probably wouldn't play well with others. I am not even sure the Pact creature would continue to grant the Pacts benefits if you multiclass just to dip as: "A pact can range from a loose agreement to a formal contract with lengthy, detailed clauses and lists of requirements. [B]The terms of a pact—what a warlock must do to receive a patron’s favor—are always dictated by the patron. [/B]On occasion, those terms include a special proviso that might seem odd or whimsical, but warlocks take these dictates as seriously as they do the other requirements of their pacts. Does your character have a pact that requires you to change your behavior in an unusual or seemingly frivolous way? Even if your patron hasn’t imposed such a duty on you already, that’s not to say it couldn't still happen." That seems to me the DM dictates ALL the terms and change them at ANY time for ANY reason. It is certainly within DM bounds to withhold Warlock features and benefits until you "show your devotion to me" i.e. gain more levels in the Warlock class. [/QUOTE]

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