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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7487887" data-attributes="member: 6919838">Well, see here we get into that whole &quot;how do you see the good alignment&quot; or &quot;alignment at all&quot; blah blah blah blah blah blah ad infinitum.So to step aside from that - i can *easily see* in stories, legends, myths and even IRL histories and events cases where &quot;good folks&quot; for &quot;good reasons&quot; took up deals with &quot;very bad even evil types&quot; to go after &quot;even badder evil types.&quot; that may lead to a gradual shift towards neutrality or even evil and that is what often makes those stories and histories so damned compelling. Now one can wave the alignment straightjacket flag and ban these...&nbsp; or one can see them play out as part of a danged good ongoing story of character de-facto rebirth and development.its up to the GM. but, as i read it, a perfect case for this could be a very good person, fighter, whatever - who sees something he cares about by some massively evil lich or such and who goes out for revenge/justice and that creates the opportunity for the RQ to step in and thru her intermediary cut a bargain, cut a deal... and gain a very &quot;useful tool&quot;. it all depends on how much a Gm wants to limit his patrons/divinities and how limited he wants his &quot;stories&quot; to seem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7487887, member: 6919838"] Well, see here we get into that whole "how do you see the good alignment" or "alignment at all" blah blah blah blah blah blah ad infinitum. So to step aside from that - i can *easily see* in stories, legends, myths and even IRL histories and events cases where "good folks" for "good reasons" took up deals with "very bad even evil types" to go after "even badder evil types." that may lead to a gradual shift towards neutrality or even evil and that is what often makes those stories and histories so damned compelling. Now one can wave the alignment straightjacket flag and ban these... or one can see them play out as part of a danged good ongoing story of character de-facto rebirth and development. its up to the GM. but, as i read it, a perfect case for this could be a very good person, fighter, whatever - who sees something he cares about by some massively evil lich or such and who goes out for revenge/justice and that creates the opportunity for the RQ to step in and thru her intermediary cut a bargain, cut a deal... and gain a very "useful tool". it all depends on how much a Gm wants to limit his patrons/divinities and how limited he wants his "stories" to seem. [/QUOTE]

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