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<blockquote data-quote="smbakeresq" data-source="post: 7491727" data-attributes="member: 28301"><p>That’s why I suggested (and enforce with my groups) that session 1 is a PC building session where everyone rolls up their PC and builds it right there. Of course people know this going in so they prepare with a few PC ideas ready to go, which probably everyone here would do also. Since it’s group driven whack ideas get called out if they are unworkable. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Arial Black stated he made a PC with an 8 score since players choose scores and no one ever did that before and that was a problem. Well thats different in many ways to me and sort of the root of the problem:</p><p></p><p>First off, I wouldn’t let players choose scores because you get that situation, %99 will never choose a bad score even if it makes sense PC build wise. It leads itself to power gaming and doesn’t force the players to make choices and be creative, although you choosing the 8 is creative it is also the first time your group did it. </p><p></p><p>Second, the DM shouldn’t impose a penalty on the PC for having a low score as long as the player plays the PC according to that low score. If you have an 8 WIS and sit around the table metagaming everything and proposing complex strategic advice, that’s not 8 wisdom. If you are a barbarian with 8 wisdom and charge into a room because the rest of the players are taking to long to discuss a strategy, well that’s 8 wisdom and worthy of giving you inspiration right there.</p><p></p><p>Third, since you were the first to take an 8 in a score as DM not only would I not interfere but I would “protect” you somewhat as a recurring theme, God protects fools sort of thing. If I could push the consequences of your 8 wisdom in some minor way onto the other players it would be great for the team, the “he might be a fool but he is our fool” type of thing. The King sees right through your Bards persuasion attempt but is so humored and disarmed by your carefree personality that agrees to help the group anyway. People speak freely around you thinking you are such fool no one would believe you anyway. Maybe the Mind Flayer knows your unwise brain is nothing special so ignores you to get the other tastier ones, attacking them in preference to you but allowing you to “save the day” with some move som unwise that the mind flayer never thought anyone would do it. A low score can be the basis for an entire PC life, I suggest everyone try it and try it even lower than an 8.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smbakeresq, post: 7491727, member: 28301"] That’s why I suggested (and enforce with my groups) that session 1 is a PC building session where everyone rolls up their PC and builds it right there. Of course people know this going in so they prepare with a few PC ideas ready to go, which probably everyone here would do also. Since it’s group driven whack ideas get called out if they are unworkable. Arial Black stated he made a PC with an 8 score since players choose scores and no one ever did that before and that was a problem. Well thats different in many ways to me and sort of the root of the problem: First off, I wouldn’t let players choose scores because you get that situation, %99 will never choose a bad score even if it makes sense PC build wise. It leads itself to power gaming and doesn’t force the players to make choices and be creative, although you choosing the 8 is creative it is also the first time your group did it. Second, the DM shouldn’t impose a penalty on the PC for having a low score as long as the player plays the PC according to that low score. If you have an 8 WIS and sit around the table metagaming everything and proposing complex strategic advice, that’s not 8 wisdom. If you are a barbarian with 8 wisdom and charge into a room because the rest of the players are taking to long to discuss a strategy, well that’s 8 wisdom and worthy of giving you inspiration right there. Third, since you were the first to take an 8 in a score as DM not only would I not interfere but I would “protect” you somewhat as a recurring theme, God protects fools sort of thing. If I could push the consequences of your 8 wisdom in some minor way onto the other players it would be great for the team, the “he might be a fool but he is our fool” type of thing. The King sees right through your Bards persuasion attempt but is so humored and disarmed by your carefree personality that agrees to help the group anyway. People speak freely around you thinking you are such fool no one would believe you anyway. Maybe the Mind Flayer knows your unwise brain is nothing special so ignores you to get the other tastier ones, attacking them in preference to you but allowing you to “save the day” with some move som unwise that the mind flayer never thought anyone would do it. A low score can be the basis for an entire PC life, I suggest everyone try it and try it even lower than an 8. [/QUOTE]
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