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<blockquote data-quote="smbakeresq" data-source="post: 7492584" data-attributes="member: 28301"><p>So in all your combats you ride a horse all the time and have room to keep them 10’ away? </p><p></p><p>If you prone the creature it’s 5’ away from you and a lance attacks with disadvantage at 5’, so it would cancel out. If you use it off a horse it’s a 2 handed weapon, so dueling would not apply. To get advantage on a prone creature it must be within 5’, and a lance has disadvantage within 5’, so a lance can’t get advantage attacking a prone creature, in fact it would attack with disadvantage as it is greater than 5’ away, see the prone condition.</p><p></p><p>Mounted combat doesn’t help either, the lance still has disadvantage if within 5’, you need to switch to another weapon. A troll is the same size as your mount also, so mounted doesn’t help in that case. It does help against targets medium or smaller at 10’ when you use your lance to gain advantage.</p><p></p><p>You said you “average” that, that seems like a lot of pieces falling into place and you are presenting a base case scenario. I can’t imagine %100 of your combats are mounted...</p><p></p><p>Remember they changed shield master so it happens after your attack action is completed. I would still use it the old way however.</p><p></p><p>I am not sure I would let a lance use dueling, it’s actually a 2 handed weapon with a condition that lets you use it one handed. It’s technically allowed by the rules though, it’s written poorly. It really should be two-handed weapon that if you are on a horse let’s you use it one handed, but then people would try to use GW stuff on it.</p><p></p><p>Your mount is a horse, so “it moves as you direct it.” It doesn’t have independent actions, so it can’t ready its own action, you have to ready an action to dash as you control it. </p><p></p><p>The build idea is sound but needs a lot of things to go right. The problem with regular mounts in combat without the Mounted Combat feat is they die to easy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smbakeresq, post: 7492584, member: 28301"] So in all your combats you ride a horse all the time and have room to keep them 10’ away? If you prone the creature it’s 5’ away from you and a lance attacks with disadvantage at 5’, so it would cancel out. If you use it off a horse it’s a 2 handed weapon, so dueling would not apply. To get advantage on a prone creature it must be within 5’, and a lance has disadvantage within 5’, so a lance can’t get advantage attacking a prone creature, in fact it would attack with disadvantage as it is greater than 5’ away, see the prone condition. Mounted combat doesn’t help either, the lance still has disadvantage if within 5’, you need to switch to another weapon. A troll is the same size as your mount also, so mounted doesn’t help in that case. It does help against targets medium or smaller at 10’ when you use your lance to gain advantage. You said you “average” that, that seems like a lot of pieces falling into place and you are presenting a base case scenario. I can’t imagine %100 of your combats are mounted... Remember they changed shield master so it happens after your attack action is completed. I would still use it the old way however. I am not sure I would let a lance use dueling, it’s actually a 2 handed weapon with a condition that lets you use it one handed. It’s technically allowed by the rules though, it’s written poorly. It really should be two-handed weapon that if you are on a horse let’s you use it one handed, but then people would try to use GW stuff on it. Your mount is a horse, so “it moves as you direct it.” It doesn’t have independent actions, so it can’t ready its own action, you have to ready an action to dash as you control it. The build idea is sound but needs a lot of things to go right. The problem with regular mounts in combat without the Mounted Combat feat is they die to easy. [/QUOTE]
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