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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7493812" data-attributes="member: 6775031">The argument about classes having codified fluff is only tangential to the argument about the merits of using established archetypes in the first place. The benefit of having an established barbarian archetype is similar to the benefit of having an established Mr. Hyde archetype, in that you don't need to explain things to the audience.A big, related issue comes to how you see the PCs. You can frequently get away with a unique protagonist in a novel, where they aren't like their peers in some way, and you can spend a lot of page space in going through the details and ramifications thereof. If you're the one fighter in your fighter class who has a unique heritage with Hyde-like tendencies, then that's why you're the protagonist, and nobody in the audience feels cheated by it.That's not the only way to look at it, though. If you don't assume that PCs are inherently special and that's why they're PCs, then you have to come to terms with the fact that expected archetypes stop holding. As a player, you can be fighting a group of town guards, and one of them suddenly Hulks out, and it feels like you're being cheated because this doesn't make sense for how you understand the world to work based on the archetypes you thought were in play.And I'm not going to argue (right now) about which is the better way to play, but I do have a preference (as a player), and it's probably better if we don't make unfounded assumptions at this point in the life-cycle of the thread.</blockquote>

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