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<blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 7496402" data-attributes="member: 6799649"><p>Which goes back to the original point of this thread (at last! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />).</p><p></p><p>Some DMs forbid some multiclass combinations (read: paladin/warlock) for what they claim are 'fluff reasons'.</p><p></p><p>The <strong>reason</strong> that this approach is absurd is because they are pre-banning PCs <strong>before</strong> they even know what this particular PC's fluff actually <strong>is!</strong></p><p></p><p>They are <em>assuming</em> that the as-yet unknown fluff will include two gods/patrons/powers that will not allow their 'servant' to serve two masters! Sure, that would be a valid reason to ban a PC....IF that was the situation!</p><p></p><p>But it might not be that situation! The 'green knight' Pal/War (ancients paladin/fey patron) is just one example from the PHB which doesn't need a 'you MUST be a powergamer' explanation, and there is no reason to automatically assume that god/patron could not work together, or even that god and patron cannot be one and the same being.</p><p></p><p>My first Pal/War PC's fluff was that The Fiend was <strong>pretending</strong> to be Odin, in order to corrupt the young paladin. So, Pal 2 to start, then MC to fiendish warlock 3, becoming a chainlock to an imp which ALWAYS kept it's raven form in front of my PC, <em>pretending</em> to be Odin's raven Huginn! But, although my PC <em>believes</em> that his abilities (both from the paladin class AND the warlock class, although 'class' is a purely metagame construct and has no place in the in-game reality of my PC who is just a person with a list of special abilities granted by 'Odin') come from Odin, ALL his special abilities in fact come from The Fiend.</p><p></p><p>With <em>that</em> fluff, "the paladin/warlock multiclass is banned <strong>because</strong> the god would not allow their servant to serve two masters" simply does not apply.</p><p></p><p>Pre-banning something for 'fluff reasons' makes no sense because you don't know what the fluff is yet. The player creates the fluff for their own PC, not the DM.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arial Black, post: 7496402, member: 6799649"] Which goes back to the original point of this thread (at last! :D). Some DMs forbid some multiclass combinations (read: paladin/warlock) for what they claim are 'fluff reasons'. The [B]reason[/B] that this approach is absurd is because they are pre-banning PCs [B]before[/B] they even know what this particular PC's fluff actually [B]is![/B] They are [I]assuming[/I] that the as-yet unknown fluff will include two gods/patrons/powers that will not allow their 'servant' to serve two masters! Sure, that would be a valid reason to ban a PC....IF that was the situation! But it might not be that situation! The 'green knight' Pal/War (ancients paladin/fey patron) is just one example from the PHB which doesn't need a 'you MUST be a powergamer' explanation, and there is no reason to automatically assume that god/patron could not work together, or even that god and patron cannot be one and the same being. My first Pal/War PC's fluff was that The Fiend was [B]pretending[/B] to be Odin, in order to corrupt the young paladin. So, Pal 2 to start, then MC to fiendish warlock 3, becoming a chainlock to an imp which ALWAYS kept it's raven form in front of my PC, [I]pretending[/I] to be Odin's raven Huginn! But, although my PC [I]believes[/I] that his abilities (both from the paladin class AND the warlock class, although 'class' is a purely metagame construct and has no place in the in-game reality of my PC who is just a person with a list of special abilities granted by 'Odin') come from Odin, ALL his special abilities in fact come from The Fiend. With [I]that[/I] fluff, "the paladin/warlock multiclass is banned [B]because[/B] the god would not allow their servant to serve two masters" simply does not apply. Pre-banning something for 'fluff reasons' makes no sense because you don't know what the fluff is yet. The player creates the fluff for their own PC, not the DM. [/QUOTE]
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